New E Class E250 CDI Avantgarde

[splang]

Hi all,

Well, as some of you will know I have been away without a merc since my E500 was sold (before Tax went through the roof).
Well, I test drove a new e class today and I am mightily impressed. So, dealer sourcing my spec on Monday and hopefully will get it before Christmas!:bannana:

Palladium Silver, Alpaca leather, Avantgarde +6 disc changer and media interface (for my iphone).

Really impressed with the 206(ish) hp and the 500nm of torque!! Reminded me very much of the e500 (535NM torque).

Anyone else got a new e class on here and any comments or recommendations to someone about to put a deposit down.

Cheers,
Steve

(aka Boris)

 

[JohnDeere8530]

Bear in mind the injector problem before you buy, see other posts on here

 

[Robbo]

Due to the injector problem on the new diesels (no fix as yet from MB), I'd try and find the extra money for an E350 if you can.

 

[J400uk]

Congrats on the purchase. I'm quite impressed the way the new E250 CDI matches the pre-facelift W211 E320 CDI for power.

 

[Rory]

So, dealer sourcing my spec on Monday

I'm amazed there's any of these still around.

 

[splang]

I know! The dealer found the one in the exact spec - comes in on the ferry on the 18th Dec.

 

[renault12ts]

Don't buy it, unless you want heartache and no car by Christmas !!

 

[scumbag]

Boris.................


Good choice of exterior colour and interior if I do say so myself...which I do.


Now about that timesing 1 by 1 and getting 0 again?

 

[Satch]

Looking at the specs for the 250CDi, I see it does indeed offer 500Nm of torque: but between 1600 and 1800rpm.

Now the "other" engines in that four pot range offer:

200CDi: 360Nm 1600 to 2600rpm

220Cdi: 400Nm 1400 to 2800rpm

When you get to six cylinders

350Cdi 540Nm 1600 to 2400rpm

Not having driven a 250Cdi, what does a 200rpm peak torque band actually translate into: a series of brief torque pulses?

 

[renault12ts]

Looking at the specs for the 250CDi, I see it does indeed offer 500Nm of torque: but between 1600 and 1800rpm.

Now the "other" engines in that four pot range offer:

200CDi: 360Nm 1600 to 2600rpm

220Cdi: 400Nm 1400 to 2800rpm

When you get to six cylinders

350Cdi 540Nm 1600 to 2400rpm

Not having driven a 250Cdi, what does a 200rpm peak torque band actually translate into: a series of brief torque pulses?

Yes I pointed that out to the salesman at our local main dealer, he smiled and said nothing. I don't think he knew what I was going on about. Although driving the 250, a more powerful car than my 320, did not seem to be. It may have a narrow torque band,,, it felt like it.

 

[Rory]

I know! The dealer found the one in the exact spec - comes in on the ferry on the 18th Dec.

In that case it's been recently produced and should be fine.

 

[splang]

I was wondering about the torque too - I spotted the narrow range.

Indeed I have been trying to find a graph to show torque and bhp but no joy - the brochure only has the e220cdi and E350CGi - I wonder why... hmmm..

Thanks for the useful posts guys and scumbag - oy!!
Nice to 'talk' again.

Steve

 

[steve_w]

Mercedes-Benz C250 CDI BlueEFFICIENCY Special Feature: The Mercedes-Benz Plant In Untertürkheim | eMercedesBenz - The Unofficial Mercedes-Benz Weblog

 

[splang]

Many thanks - a really useful post - the torque graph is interesting isn't is.... VERY small peak band, but still more than 220 overall I guess...for the same economy...


Steve

 

[wemorgan]

Looking at the specs for the 250CDi, I see it does indeed offer 500Nm of torque: but between 1600 and 1800rpm.

Now the "other" engines in that four pot range offer:

200CDi: 360Nm 1600 to 2600rpm

220Cdi: 400Nm 1400 to 2800rpm

When you get to six cylinders

350Cdi 540Nm 1600 to 2400rpm

Not having driven a 250Cdi, what does a 200rpm peak torque band actually translate into: a series of brief torque pulses?

Mercedes-Benz C250 CDI BlueEFFICIENCY Special Feature:*The Mercedes-Benz Plant In Untertürkheim | eMercedesBenz - The Unofficial Mercedes-Benz Weblog

So a fairer way to look at the 250CDi might be to say:

>450Nm between 1400 and 2600 rpm

 

[Mactech]

So a fairer way to look at the 250CDi might be to say:

>450Nm between 1400 and 2600 rpm

That still seems a little 'peaky' compared to my S.
It makes >550Nm between 1600 and 3500 rpm with a max of over 600. That means that it has the guts of a 2000rpm band of torque at a high level.
and that translates in to ''effortless" and "smooth" not to metion "quick!"
A 4 pot motor can produce some very impressive power/torque figures and will always be more fuel efficient due to the lower friction but if smooth grunt is high on your list of priorities, then you really should add a couple more pistons

 

[scumbag]

Talk about Torque.


whilst rummaging through the t'internet I happened across this which seems to be some lines on a graph. Perhaps Boris can explain?

it be for the car what I seem to have decided I need.

 

[splang]

Well, it certainly looks like a petrol car -- so not a bendy bus then!

 

[splang]

Arggh! Not sure what to do now... I think I shall just wait - I have a perfectly adequate car and a really quick bike so....

 

[scumbag]

Arggh! Not sure what to do now... I think I shall just wait - I have a perfectly adequate car and a really quick bike so....

Its a FORD man