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HALL1969

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<div class="bbWrapper">Hi everyone, my 2014 (facelift) E class had a run in with a BAD valet service and instead of spraying the cloth he sprayed the glass on the center display forcing fluid behind the clear plastic. He hasn't got insurance to cover new cluster (£1400 fitted).<br /> So I was wondering if it is possible to buy a 2nd hand cluster on Ebay and get it programmed with all my car data? Main dealer ofcourse says no so anywhere else I could try?</div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">The lack of insurance is not your problem.<br /> <br /> Can the cluster be removed and the plastic cover removed and cleaned?<br /> <br /> If not then they caused substantial damage through incompetence. Take them to court if they will not pay. A secondhand cluster almost certainly cannot be (legally) programmed to work and if it could who would pay for this?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 57806" data-quote="DSM10000" data-source="post: 2788680" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2788680" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2788680">DSM10000 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> The lack of insurance is not your problem.<br /> <br /> They caused substantial damage through incompetence. Take them to court if they will not pay.<br /> <br /> A secondhand cluster almost certainly cannot be (legally) programmed to work and if it could who would pay for this? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Thanks DSM10000,<br /> He has offered to pay for the reprogramming as I think I'm gonna be banging my head off a brick wall until I go through the legal process sadly. I know I'm clutching at straws trying to get this sorted without having to pay to go through the courts</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 148027" data-quote="HALL1969" data-source="post: 2788682" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2788682" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2788682">HALL1969 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Thanks DSM10000,<br /> He has offered to pay for the reprogramming as I think I'm gonna be banging my head off a brick wall until I go through the legal process sadly. I know I'm clutching at straws trying to get this sorted without having to pay to go through the courts </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> It is not expensive to start a claim and you would be almost certain of winning:<br /> <br /> <a href="https://www.gov.uk/make-court-claim-for-money/court-fees" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">Make a court claim for money</a></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Welcome to the forum. Contact <a href="https://www.commandonline.co.uk/help.php?section=contactus&amp;mode=update" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">Comand Online, </a>they're forum sponsors and if it can be done they'll know how.</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 652" data-quote="Stratman" data-source="post: 2788684" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2788684" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2788684">Stratman said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Welcome to the forum. Contact <a href="https://www.commandonline.co.uk/help.php?section=contactus&amp;mode=update" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">Comand Online, </a>they're forum sponsors and if it can be done they'll know how. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Thanks Stratman, I'll look them up</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 652" data-quote="Stratman" data-source="post: 2788684" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2788684" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2788684">Stratman said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Welcome to the forum. Contact <a href="https://www.commandonline.co.uk/help.php?section=contactus&amp;mode=update" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">Comand Online, </a>they're forum sponsors and if it can be done they'll know how. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> The OP is in South Shields, COMAND on Line are in Surry, it of a hike but as you say, they will know! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Hi and welcome. Sorry to hear about this problem. Would it not be possible to dismantle the cluster and clean the plastic window?<br /> <br /> For £1400 it has to be worth looking into (no pun intended), and you’ve not much to lose if you’re otherwise going to be replacing it?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 307" data-quote="Will" data-source="post: 2788689" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2788689" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2788689">Will said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hi and welcome. Sorry to hear about this problem. Would it not be possible to dismantle the cluster and clean the plastic window?<br /> <br /> For £1400 it has to be worth looking into (no pun intended), and you’ve not much to lose if you’re otherwise going to be replacing it? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>As per post 2...................... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 652" data-quote="Stratman" data-source="post: 2788684" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2788684" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2788684">Stratman said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Welcome to the forum. Contact <a href="https://www.commandonline.co.uk/help.php?section=contactus&amp;mode=update" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">Comand Online, </a>they're forum sponsors and if it can be done they'll know how. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Thanks Stratman, I'll look them up<br /> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 307" data-quote="Will" data-source="post: 2788689" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2788689" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2788689">Will said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hi and welcome. Sorry to hear about this problem. Would it not be possible to dismantle the cluster and clean the plastic window?<br /> <br /> For £1400 it has to be worth looking into (no pun intended), and you’ve not much to lose if you’re otherwise going to be replacing it? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Hi Will,<br /> I've been told by main dealer as well as a 3rd party Mercedes specialist that the unit is sealed and has tamper proof circuitry (which I'm dubious of)</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 148027" data-quote="HALL1969" data-source="post: 2788691" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2788691" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2788691">HALL1969 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Thanks Stratman, I'll look them up<br /> <br /> Hi Will,<br /> I've been told by main dealer as well as a 3rd party Mercedes specialist that the unit is sealed and has tamper proof circuitry (which I'm dubious of) </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <blockquote data-attributes="member: 148027" data-quote="HALL1969" data-source="post: 2788691" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2788691" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2788691">HALL1969 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Thanks Stratman, I'll look them up<br /> <br /> Hi Will,<br /> I've been told by main dealer as well as a 3rd party Mercedes specialist that the unit is sealed and has tamper proof circuitry (which I'm dubious of) </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Has anyone been able to open a cluster that anyone knows of? Would be the perfect solution</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><a href="https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F142866232316" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">MERCEDES BENZ W212 E CLASS FACELIFT INSTRUMENT CLUSTER DIALS PLASTIC | eBay</a><br /> <br /> Looks hopeful?</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 307" data-quote="Will" data-source="post: 2788697" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2788697" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2788697">Will said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> <a href="https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F142866232316" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">MERCEDES BENZ W212 E CLASS FACELIFT INSTRUMENT CLUSTER DIALS PLASTIC | eBay</a><br /> <br /> Looks hopeful? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>You're a star Will! Need to dig my trim tools out I guess!</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Keep us posted how you get on, could be useful to others...<br /> <br /> Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 135134" data-quote="SL500AMG" data-source="post: 2788781" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2788781" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2788781">SL500AMG said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Keep us posted how you get on, could be useful to others...<br /> <br /> Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>I will do. Going to give Command Online a bell tomorrow and take things from there. They might be able to tell me if the cluster can infact be dismantled and will save me a whole lot of leg work. Just need to get my trim tools out!</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">One option I guess would be to buy something like this for £55 to practice on. Better than £1400 and saves taking your car apart if it can’t be done and/or damaging the original. You could always sell it on again and get your money back afterwards <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><br /> <br /> <a href="https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F372669754765" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">MERCEDES E CLASS W212 2.1 DIESEL AUTO INSTRUMENT CLUSTER CLOCKS A2129007918 | eBay</a></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">Try these, i've heard good things<br /> <br /> <a href="http://www.clusterrepairsuk.co.uk/" target="_blank" class="link link--external" rel="nofollow ugc noopener">The Instrument Cluster Repair Specialist, Cluster Repairs UK</a></div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">UPDATE... <br /> Just had a great conversation with a guy from &quot;cluster repairs&quot; who says that it's an easy job to open the cluster and clean from the inside. They certainly are NOT sealed so watch this space!<br /> Gonna take it apart at the weekend so fingers crossed</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper">I often ponder how many of these &quot;detailers&quot; have any, let alone adequate, levels of insurance...</div>
 
<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 148027" data-quote="HALL1969" data-source="post: 2788691" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=2788691" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-2788691">HALL1969 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Hi Will,<br /> I've been told by main dealer as well as a 3rd party Mercedes specialist that the unit is sealed and has tamper proof circuitry (which I'm dubious of) </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Clusters that I have had dealings with have had a tamper evident seal across the joints, this is simply to show it's been opened and would void the warranty (on a new cluster) but means nothing on secondhand units</div>
 
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