grober
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How about changing your E-MAIL address? or TRY tucows.com for spam filter or the CNET site
PJH
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Some more here
http://www.download.com/3120-2001_4...ack=&swlink=&gfiletype=&os=&li=49&dlsize=&ca=
Are you able to sign-on to the mail server using your browser ? If so you can set up your own filters there.
http://www.download.com/3120-2001_4...ack=&swlink=&gfiletype=&os=&li=49&dlsize=&ca=
Are you able to sign-on to the mail server using your browser ? If so you can set up your own filters there.
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http://www.mailwasher.net/
The free version is OK but I've used the paid for version for about 4 years now it learns intuitively which mail you want to keep and will either remove unwanted mail or present it to you ready to erase if you don't want it. Can update from a central Spam library and, if you allow, can use your results to update others.
The free version is OK but I've used the paid for version for about 4 years now it learns intuitively which mail you want to keep and will either remove unwanted mail or present it to you ready to erase if you don't want it. Can update from a central Spam library and, if you allow, can use your results to update others.
jimti
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I have a problem on my freeserve account where I am getting hundreds of returned Emails (mail delivery failures) every day, although I was not the sender of the origional messages, I've talked to freeserve (Wannado (Orange)and they say there is nothing they can do about it. does anyone know how to sort this out?
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masqueraid rants about bounced spam - don't do it!
This is a real bane. Bouncing emails is necessary in case the sender has made a genuine error in addressing an email but it is also used by Spam-Filters to return unwanted mail to the sender. The problem is most of the time the sender has no idea that the mail was sent! Result the ether is clogged with unnecessary email traffic!
Your email account will accept any incoming emails with the address:
"[email protected]"
What you're seeing is the result of trojan email spamming.
Your account details have been lifted from an affected computer or even from a website that has your email address and then being resent from infected PC's or "bots". The outgoing emails from the "bots" have a return address that is invented ("spoofed") but contains enough of your account details to be attributed to your account.
The recipent of "your" spam will either:
- Accept the email
- Delete it
- Bounce your email because the delivery account does not exist
- Bounce it because the content is deemed spam by their own filters
- Bounce it because their mailbox is stuffed full of spam already
- Bounce it becasue their spam filter insists you resend an email to confirm you have a valid email address.
This can confuse your own spam filtering because the "mailer-demon" bounce messages come from legitimate accounts.
Generally there is not a lot you can do about this. Email addresses tend to get used extensively and then discarded by spam-bots so it may simply be a case of riding out the current flood for perhaps as much as a fortnight or so before they dry up again.
However there is a possiblility that your machine is actually sending out some of this spam.
If your PC is only on a limited time during any 24hr period check the bounced emails to see what time the email claiming to have originated from you was sent. If they seem to tie in with the times your PC is switched on (or any PC on a home network) it is probalby wise to scan your machine(s) for trojans. (both Tauscan and Trojan Hunter offer free trials that will last long enough to establish if there is a problem and if so remove it).
This is a real bane. Bouncing emails is necessary in case the sender has made a genuine error in addressing an email but it is also used by Spam-Filters to return unwanted mail to the sender. The problem is most of the time the sender has no idea that the mail was sent! Result the ether is clogged with unnecessary email traffic!Your email account will accept any incoming emails with the address:
"[email protected]"
What you're seeing is the result of trojan email spamming.
Your account details have been lifted from an affected computer or even from a website that has your email address and then being resent from infected PC's or "bots". The outgoing emails from the "bots" have a return address that is invented ("spoofed") but contains enough of your account details to be attributed to your account.
The recipent of "your" spam will either:
- Accept the email
- Delete it
- Bounce your email because the delivery account does not exist
- Bounce it because the content is deemed spam by their own filters
- Bounce it because their mailbox is stuffed full of spam already
- Bounce it becasue their spam filter insists you resend an email to confirm you have a valid email address.
This can confuse your own spam filtering because the "mailer-demon" bounce messages come from legitimate accounts.
Generally there is not a lot you can do about this. Email addresses tend to get used extensively and then discarded by spam-bots so it may simply be a case of riding out the current flood for perhaps as much as a fortnight or so before they dry up again.
However there is a possiblility that your machine is actually sending out some of this spam.
If your PC is only on a limited time during any 24hr period check the bounced emails to see what time the email claiming to have originated from you was sent. If they seem to tie in with the times your PC is switched on (or any PC on a home network) it is probalby wise to scan your machine(s) for trojans. (both Tauscan and Trojan Hunter offer free trials that will last long enough to establish if there is a problem and if so remove it).
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My account has been spoofed too. Been getting the bounce backs for the last two days.
Times appears to be 24h (even when I'm not online), so hopefully no Trojan. Scanned with my blueyonder security software, and not had any alerts.
Been about 5 or 6 years since it last happened, hopefully it will subside soon.
Times appears to be 24h (even when I'm not online), so hopefully no Trojan. Scanned with my blueyonder security software, and not had any alerts.
Been about 5 or 6 years since it last happened, hopefully it will subside soon.
masqueraid said:
Your email account will accept any incoming emails with the address:
"[email protected]"
What you're seeing is the result of trojan email spamming.
Your account details have been lifted from an affected computer or even from a website that has your email address and then being resent from infected PC's or "bots". The outgoing emails from the "bots" have a return address that is invented ("spoofed") but contains enough of your account details to be attributed to your account.
The recipent of "your" spam will either:
- Accept the email
- Delete it
- Bounce your email because the delivery account does not exist
- Bounce it because the content is deemed spam by their own filters
- Bounce it because their mailbox is stuffed full of spam already
- Bounce it becasue their spam filter insists you resend an email to confirm you have a valid email address.
This can confuse your own spam filtering because the "mailer-demon" bounce messages come from legitimate accounts.
Generally there is not a lot you can do about this. Email addresses tend to get used extensively and then discarded by spam-bots so it may simply be a case of riding out the current flood for perhaps as much as a fortnight or so before they dry up again.
However there is a possiblility that your machine is actually sending out some of this spam.
If your PC is only on a limited time during any 24hr period check the bounced emails to see what time the email claiming to have originated from you was sent. If they seem to tie in with the times your PC is switched on (or any PC on a home network) it is probalby wise to scan your machine(s) for trojans. (both Tauscan and Trojan Hunter offer free trials that will last long enough to establish if there is a problem and if so remove it).
If one of your mailboxes is being bombarded with spam emails, why not set up a re-direct so that you can send all this spam to a 'black hole'. Any email sent to the mailbox will be re-directed to the black hole and deleted.
A more straightforward option is to go into your email options and apply message rules.For example any message with "failure" or "undelivered" in the message title is deleted (sent to your deleted items folder).
I'm not a computer wizz kid but by playing around with the settings I don't get spam. If I can do it anyone can.
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I am not a computer expert either, but after recently getting an invite to a gmail account (thanks masqueraid:bannana: ) and setting it up, I get virtually no spam now!
I have 3 email addresses that I regularly check, so have had these forward any email to my gmail account. Got to say gmail has a great spam filter, which in about two weeks has only intercepted a couple of real messages by mistake, but has caught literaly hundreds of unwanted mailings. Also seems to catch the returned mail ones as well.
Every few days I scan read the spam mail to see if there is anything there by mistake and then delete the lot!!
I have 3 email addresses that I regularly check, so have had these forward any email to my gmail account. Got to say gmail has a great spam filter, which in about two weeks has only intercepted a couple of real messages by mistake, but has caught literaly hundreds of unwanted mailings. Also seems to catch the returned mail ones as well.
Every few days I scan read the spam mail to see if there is anything there by mistake and then delete the lot!!
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I use a bit of freeware called spambrave. It works well.
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Most ISPs have an abuse mailbox for anything unsavourey....eg [email protected]
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Come across a third person today that was spoofed - it seems on the same day as me!! Bizarre, as I've not spoken to anyone that's been spoofed for years.
MessageLabs provide spam filtering for the company I work for, and they had a bulletin on 3 Nov warning of a 50% increase in spam!!
MessageLabs provide spam filtering for the company I work for, and they had a bulletin on 3 Nov warning of a 50% increase in spam!!
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I've had the same. Each day I get a least 10 mails saying "Undeliverable" and the recipients are always a random series of letters @mydomainname.com.
I'm going to look at that Spambrave software I think.
I'm going to look at that Spambrave software I think.
Our works e-mail untill last week or so was getting between 250 and 300 per day. We are on Pipex and the filters are applied after opening your e-mail list. You then apply the filters and nearly all of them dissapear. Problem is Pipex has a big problem coping with that volume of e-mail
Another thing, I didn't realise how many ways you can spell Viagra
but filter Viagra and Vjagra will get through
Another thing, I didn't realise how many ways you can spell Viagra but filter Viagra and Vjagra will get through
jimti
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It is a pity that I can't use a filter to stop any mail containing (some other letters/numbers)@freeserve.co.uk but still allow (myname)@freeserve.co.uk through..I would get rid of nearly all spam if that were possible
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Can somebody explain how we receive email that is an approximation of our actual email address?jimti said:
Surely the email providors could set up filters to delete email that is not to a correctly spelt address? If you are trying to log into an email account and forget that it is case sensitive you are denied access. Seems simple to me, or am I just deluding myself??
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If you use a "Freeserve" account as an example
Your account name is "myaccount.freeserve.co.uk"
Your email account is [email protected]
effectively you have infinite email addresses.
You probably only use one or two variants when you send mail out:
[email protected]
[email protected]
And you can configure your email client to put these two addresses into separate mailboxes when they arrive.
If you don't configure your email client then anything that ends with @myaccount.freeserve.co.uk will go into your mailbox.
Spammers know that most people won't configure their email systems becaue they work fine unconfigured. So if they send out spam addressed to [email protected] chances are your email client will deliver it to you.
Your ISP (Freeserve) doesn't regulate the names you use on your email so the best they can offer is to scan the body of the email for offers to enlarge various anatomical structures and cheap pharmacuticals and mark them as "likely spam" (because again they don't know you haven't ordered some!)
With gmail etc you have a fixed email address: me@gmail so fhwutv@gmail won't reach you (but may go to someone who is unlucky enough to have that name!) so based just on an odds ratio you are less likely to be affected by this kind of spamming.
Your account name is "myaccount.freeserve.co.uk"
Your email account is [email protected]
effectively you have infinite email addresses.
You probably only use one or two variants when you send mail out:
[email protected]
[email protected]
And you can configure your email client to put these two addresses into separate mailboxes when they arrive.
If you don't configure your email client then anything that ends with @myaccount.freeserve.co.uk will go into your mailbox.
Spammers know that most people won't configure their email systems becaue they work fine unconfigured. So if they send out spam addressed to [email protected] chances are your email client will deliver it to you.
Your ISP (Freeserve) doesn't regulate the names you use on your email so the best they can offer is to scan the body of the email for offers to enlarge various anatomical structures and cheap pharmacuticals and mark them as "likely spam" (because again they don't know you haven't ordered some!)
With gmail etc you have a fixed email address: me@gmail so fhwutv@gmail won't reach you (but may go to someone who is unlucky enough to have that name!) so based just on an odds ratio you are less likely to be affected by this kind of spamming.
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so if I do this can I put all others into my junk mail folder or better still just have it deleted?masqueraid said:
If so, how do I configure it?
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Assuming you're using Outlook Express:
Go to Tools/Accounts and then the Mail tab
Choose Properties and then the Servers tab
In the Incoming Mail Server account name type the EXACT email address you want to use for the account. This will be the ONLY address that will be accepted for download from the ISP mail server. (you can set up other accounts or even set up accounts in another user profile if you want to download messages from a different account name).
Because the spam will still arrive on the mail server as well as your legitimate mail you should every now and again download all the files on your mail server. You can set up another account which just has @myaccount.freeserve.co.uk as the Incoming Mail Server address. When you run this you'll get everything your haven't already downloaded so there is a high probability that it will all be stuff you want to delete, however there could be legitimate emails that had only just arrived since you last ran the legitimate download so it's worth having a quick scan through these before deleting them. Alternatively as already described use a program like Mailwasher to look at the mail server and delete them directly from there.
Hope this is vaguely understandable!
Go to Tools/Accounts and then the Mail tab
Choose Properties and then the Servers tab
In the Incoming Mail Server account name type the EXACT email address you want to use for the account. This will be the ONLY address that will be accepted for download from the ISP mail server. (you can set up other accounts or even set up accounts in another user profile if you want to download messages from a different account name).
Because the spam will still arrive on the mail server as well as your legitimate mail you should every now and again download all the files on your mail server. You can set up another account which just has @myaccount.freeserve.co.uk as the Incoming Mail Server address. When you run this you'll get everything your haven't already downloaded so there is a high probability that it will all be stuff you want to delete, however there could be legitimate emails that had only just arrived since you last ran the legitimate download so it's worth having a quick scan through these before deleting them. Alternatively as already described use a program like Mailwasher to look at the mail server and delete them directly from there.
Hope this is vaguely understandable!
