They were out in force last night!

[Deleted member 6183]

To be fair I usually set cruise to 54mph on the average speed sections of the M4. Unless you do a silly speed you can get away with a bit over 50.

Yep, car speedo will over read plus there will be some margin built into the camera sensitivity.

Not quite sure why seeing someone else speeding through an average speed check area would be an issue, particularly when you would have no idea what speed they are actually doing.

 

[Alex225]

Yep, car speedo will over read plus there will be some margin built into the camera sensitivity.

Not quite sure why seeing someone else speeding through an average speed check area would be an issue, particularly when you would have no idea what speed they are actually doing.

Yeah personally I don't care how fast someone is going unless it's endangering other road users.

If someone does 65 through an average speed check, that's their prerogative. Same as seeing someone rocket past me on the M25, I wouldn't go over 80 on there but if someone zips past me at 100 they can crack on and risk the fine/points.

I'm off for another trip to Bristol and back tonight. Let's hope there's less utter muppets out in force tonight.

 

[clk320x]

I'm off for another trip to Bristol and back tonight. Let's hope there's less utter muppets out in force tonight.

In the W211?

 

[Alex225]

In the W211?

As always mate, it soldiers on haha. I've done 30k in it now and it still never fails to be a great car for this kind of driving. Feels a little cumbersome round town compared to the CLS350 but I put that down to the quicker steering rack in that.

Thinking about it, this is the most mileage I have covered in any car I've owned. I have cars I've owned for far longer but never covered the distances I have in the E. My second car I did about 22-23k in before it was sold. It's due an MOT end of this month so fingers crossed that goes ok. I half expect something suspension related up front bot not had any eye watering bills with the car so far haha.

 

[clk320x]

Thinking about it, this is the most mileage I have covered in any car I've owned. I have cars I've owned for far longer but never covered the distances I have in the E. My second car I did about 22-23k in before it was sold. It's due an MOT end of this month so fingers crossed that goes ok. I half expect something suspension related up front bot not had any eye watering bills with the car so far haha.

Front ball joints are a popular one on the 211s, same here I love mine. Around 260k now!!!!!

 

[Germgh0st]

Undertaking is an offence...........just saying

Sounds like a very familiar drive to mine and potentially similar circumstances. M25 junction 7-15 then M4 to junction 18, then back again. Sadly my ex (despite me paying her fuel) told me it's too much wear and tear on her 5 year old car so no long does any driving. I'll just use my 16 year old Merc in stead haha.



Overtaking on the left is an offence, true. Passing an idiot in lane 2, 3 or 4 whilst I drive at the speed limit in lane 1 isn't though.

As has already been said above, there is no specific offence for undertaking. What they can prosecute you for is dangerous driving if you do it in a fashion that plod thinks is dangerous to others. Slowly cruising past somebody on the left because they're lane hogging I wouldn't consider to be dangerous.

 

[AntMB]

Undertaking is an offence...........just saying

If you're in the left hand lane doing 70, it isn't legally overtaking if the person in any lane to the right is doing under 70.

There is a highway code rule (I'll find it) for this which states something along the lines of traffic moving at less than the posted speed limit doesn't mean you have to slow down in the left. Going past, generally isn't the same as undertaking, as you wouldn't have been behind them in the same lane, pulled out left, then in again.

 

[AntMB]

I think the key phrase here is "congested conditions", I suggest that undertaking at more than 40mph and more is not congested conditions.

I think that by 'congested conditions', it's assumed that no reasonable person would be sat doing 60 or less in the middle lane, as the rules can't be made up to allow someone to do this. So it would still apply that if you're on the inside lane doing 70, you're doing 70, breaking no speed limits. You will by nature of that go past someone doing 40 if they're doing 40 in the middle lane.

 

[GeordieN]

On the way to work yesterday, came up upon a car with no lights on the highway, this was 5.30am so pitch black. I flashed it three times before the penny dropped and the lights came on. this is the A19 Sunderland area, there are a lot of accidents on this stretch.

 

[markjay]

My understanding has always been that when travelling in inside or middle lanes, you are permitted to travel at the same speed as other vehicles in your lane, even if it means going past slower vehicles travelling in the outside lane.

Obviously driving behind a slow car in the outside lane, then undertaking it in the middle or inside lane, and going back to the outside lane, is prohibited.

So I think the question is what should you do if you are driving in the inside lane at say 70mph and there's another car driving 60mph in the outside lane, an no other vehicles on the road.

Should you just contiune in your lane (inside or middle lane) and pass the slower car (travelling in the outside lane)? Or should you remain in your lane, slow down and match your speed? Or should you slow down then move over to the outside lane and continue driving behind the other car (at a safe distance), waiting for it to move over to the left?

 

[GeordieN]

My understanding has always been that when travelling in inside or middle lanes, you are permitted to travel at the same speed as other vehicles in your lane, even if it means going past slower vehicles travelling in the outside lane.

Obviously driving behind a slow car in the outside lane, then undertaking it in the middle or inside lane, and going back to the outside lane, is prohibited.

So I think the question is what should you do if you are driving in the inside lane at say 70mph and there's another car driving 60mph in the outside lane, an no other vehicles on the road.

Should you just contiune in your lane and pass the slower car travelling in the outside lane? Or should you remain in your lane, slow down and match your speed? Or should you slow down then move over to the outside lane and continue driving behind the other car (at a safe distance), waiting for it to move over to the left?

I normally pull out behind them and give them a but time to pull over, if they don't I flash them to alert them I am behind them just in case they are unaware. If all that fails I would go back into normal lane and undertake them. If in traffic I would just continue in my lane and pass on the inside.

 

[190]

£800,000 speed camera on Cat and Fiddle fails to catch a single biker

It's a good story but I suspect many are also just keeping to the new speed limit. I've ridden my bike and driven my car on that road hundreds of times to get from A to B and the hazardous part is not the reasonably straight road near the Cat and Fiddle but the very tight bends leading up to it. While it's certainly a very demanding road, I don't get why the bikers flock to it and don't go out of my way to use it. Dangerous it certainly is, one of our teachers was killed by an overtaking car that hit him head on while he was cycling on that route. The devastation wreaked on his wife and young family is enough to me to keep clear of it.

 

[Istbclass]

We should do what the Americans do and be allowed to pass both sides, if you don’t want to be undertaken keep left, you cannot be undertaken if you are in the correct lane, alternatively enforce the Highway Code and start prosecuting people who block the overtaking lanes with points on their licence.