Dieselman
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Are you sure it needs another one. They have a habit of the vane actuator shaft sticking for which there is a high temperature grease available.
As for cost budget £750-£900 for the unit.
If the replacement was a genuine MB one then it is under warranty for 2 years.
As for cost budget £750-£900 for the unit.
If the replacement was a genuine MB one then it is under warranty for 2 years.
hi there to be honest im not too sure about the turbo, the egr valve has gone, blocking the cats and now the turbo?
to be honest i have an invoice infront of me dating the 9th Aug 2007 showing a replacment turbo (£700), Exhaust (£900) & intercooler so im baffled that the turbo has gone. The mechanic seems to think the turbo has gotten clocked along with the cats as a result of the egr valve failure.
Any thoghts?
to be honest i have an invoice infront of me dating the 9th Aug 2007 showing a replacment turbo (£700), Exhaust (£900) & intercooler so im baffled that the turbo has gone. The mechanic seems to think the turbo has gotten clocked along with the cats as a result of the egr valve failure.
Any thoghts?
Update....
The turbo was fitted new to the car in Aug last year by German Auto Specialists in Chesire, i think they bought the unit from Cameo 88.
I have to send the turbo back to them to have it inspected to see if qualifies for a warranty replacement but im not sure how it couldnt??? Can somone clarify this for me?
Also my mechanic has told me as a result of the turbo packing in its blocked the cats which also need replacing so what happens in this case?
Hope someone can help
Barrie.
The turbo was fitted new to the car in Aug last year by German Auto Specialists in Chesire, i think they bought the unit from Cameo 88.
I have to send the turbo back to them to have it inspected to see if qualifies for a warranty replacement but im not sure how it couldnt??? Can somone clarify this for me?
Also my mechanic has told me as a result of the turbo packing in its blocked the cats which also need replacing so what happens in this case?
Hope someone can help
Barrie.
KLP 92
MB Enthusiast
Are you sure the Cats are blocked?
My experience with the CDI cars is that they are very commonly misdiagnosed. I had a very small leak in the air intake pipe which was misdiagnosed to a turbo failure by MB. A new turbo was fitted, followed by new cats!
I've seen it happen 1 too many times, i would check the basics first. To check the cats remove the exhaust and take the car for a spin and see if it makes a differnce.
My experience with the CDI cars is that they are very commonly misdiagnosed. I had a very small leak in the air intake pipe which was misdiagnosed to a turbo failure by MB. A new turbo was fitted, followed by new cats!
I've seen it happen 1 too many times, i would check the basics first. To check the cats remove the exhaust and take the car for a spin and see if it makes a differnce.
basically the car is going into limp mode all the time, ended up being in limp mode as soon as the car was tunred over.
The egr was blocked so a new one was replaced but as well as this the the turbo has failed its not spinning i beleive which has caused a build up in the cats.
Im not mechanically minded, the mechanic i know personally so i assume he telling me the truth or in fact hes just not aware that there is a mis-diagnosis.
Please let me know what you think
Barrie.
The egr was blocked so a new one was replaced but as well as this the the turbo has failed its not spinning i beleive which has caused a build up in the cats.
Im not mechanically minded, the mechanic i know personally so i assume he telling me the truth or in fact hes just not aware that there is a mis-diagnosis.
Please let me know what you think
Barrie.
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Which engine ?
OM613-1350bar.
OM648-1600bar
Or V6.
They all have different technique.
What are the trouble codes ?
If the car is in limp mode, there are surely a trouble code.
Only Star Diaknose can read all the trouble codes.
"Universal systems" doesn´t nessessaryly see everything.
There can be many different reasons, why the engine goes to limp mode.
Maybe it is not the turbo.
Don`t by anything more, for "just to be sure".
What do you mean, when you say, that egr is blocked ?
Recycling must work properly, otherwise the car is in limp mode all the time.
Which engine ?
OM613-1350bar.
OM648-1600bar
Or V6.
They all have different technique.
What are the trouble codes ?
If the car is in limp mode, there are surely a trouble code.
Only Star Diaknose can read all the trouble codes.
"Universal systems" doesn´t nessessaryly see everything.
There can be many different reasons, why the engine goes to limp mode.
Maybe it is not the turbo.
Don`t by anything more, for "just to be sure".
What do you mean, when you say, that egr is blocked ?
Recycling must work properly, otherwise the car is in limp mode all the time.
Dieselman
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The turbo can't cause the cats to block but the blocked cats COULD cause the turbo to overheat thus damaging the exhaust turbine blades, although I think this is doubtful.
It's possible that the EGR valve has been causing excessive soot thus blocking the cats but I can't see the turbo beibng connected.
If the mechanic connects a pressure guage into the exhaust after the turbo then excess backpressure will be revealed.
A boost gauge int he intake line would reveal teh state of play with the turbo as well.
Good old fashioned Mechanic skills.
It's possible that the EGR valve has been causing excessive soot thus blocking the cats but I can't see the turbo beibng connected.
If the mechanic connects a pressure guage into the exhaust after the turbo then excess backpressure will be revealed.
A boost gauge int he intake line would reveal teh state of play with the turbo as well.
Good old fashioned Mechanic skills.
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In MB,s systems, MAF is watching over recycling.
Mostly, if the fault is in charger, or boost pressure, reboot will solve that problem.
Permanent limp mode points at EGR, or MAF-sensor.
When you get rid of the limp mode, charger “wakes up”.
In MB,s systems, MAF is watching over recycling.
Mostly, if the fault is in charger, or boost pressure, reboot will solve that problem.
Permanent limp mode points at EGR, or MAF-sensor.
When you get rid of the limp mode, charger “wakes up”.
Dieselman
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But that could be true and would cause catastrophic bearing damage.
Is that what has happened?
Is that what has happened?
i think so but what im cheesed off about is that a turbo was fitted to the car only 6months ago! by a garage so whose at fault if anyone?
Is it a take it on the chin moment or have I got a right to approach the original garage who installed the turbo?
Is it a take it on the chin moment or have I got a right to approach the original garage who installed the turbo?
KLP 92
MB Enthusiast
What exactly did he notice on the turbo? Physically looking at it can't justify a new turbo.
Camco 88 stripped the turbo down and basically found that as no oil was getting in through the feed the the turbo though heat had caused catastrophic damage.
Their sending up a letter outlining that the oil feed was at fault. They also noticed thick build up in the oil feed pipe?
Their sending up a letter outlining that the oil feed was at fault. They also noticed thick build up in the oil feed pipe?
Here is my bill for my w220 turbo from my local garage (friend owns it) but basically my turbo packed in and dumped a lot of oil into the cat he was able to take the system apart and flushed all the oil out and the car is now perfect. When it happened the car went into limp mode and showed no faults on dash.I think I got off lightly as I'm sure it would of been many more ££'s at MB
