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  1. Mercman786

    Mercman786 Active Member

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    The Mercedes-Benz C-class has solid build quality, stylish looks, along and good cabin space. Sport models are great to drive.
    There is some wind noise at higher speeds, but otherwise there's not much else to moan about.
    There are reports of gearbox software problems, key issues and engine gremlins.
    The C-class is great, regardless of whether you want your ride to be traditional or comfortable, or sporty and dynamic.

    All models come with with Agility Control Suspension system.
    Early automatic models required a software upgrade to improve gear changes.
    The electronic key can stop working. Make sure you buy one with a spare key/s.

    Go for - C220 CDI
    Avoid - C350 Sport

    C180 Kompressor -
    Urban - 26.2 mpg
    Extra Urban - 47.9 mpg
    Combined - 36.7 mpg
    0-62 mph - 9.9 seconds
    Top Speed - 136 mph
    Cylinders - 4
    Valves - 16v
    Engine Power - 156 BHP
    Engine Torque - 170 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 13
    Co2 Emissions - 182 g/km - 1 Year/£210.00 6 months/£115.50

    C200 Kompressor -
    Urban - 25.7 mpg
    Extra Urban - 46.3 mpg
    Combined - 35.8 mpg
    0-62 mph - 8.8 seconds
    Top Speed - 143 mph
    Cylinders - 4
    Valves - 16v
    Engine Power - 184 BHP
    Engine Torque - 184 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 14
    Co2 Emissions - 192 g/km - 1 Year/£245.00 6 months/£134.75

    C200 CDI -
    Urban - 31 mpg
    Extra Urban - 55.4 mpg
    Combined - 42.8 mpg
    0-62 mph - 10.2 seconds
    Top Speed - 132 mph
    Cylinders - 4
    Valves - 16v
    Engine Power - 136 BHP
    Engine Torque - 199 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 13
    Co2 Emissions - 173 g/km - 1 Year/£190.00 6 months/£104.50

    C220 CDI -
    Urban - 31 mpg
    Extra Urban - 55.4 mpg
    Combined - 42.8 mpg
    0-62 mph - 8.5 seconds
    Top Speed - 141 mph
    Cylinders - 4
    Valves - 16v
    Engine Power - 170 BHP
    Engine Torque - 295 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 14
    Co2 Emissions - 173 g/km - 1 Year/£190.00 6 months/£104.50

    C230 -
    Urban - 21.6 mpg
    Extra Urban - 41.5 mpg
    Combined - 31 mpg
    0-62 mph - 8.6 seconds
    Top Speed - 144 mph
    Cylinders - 6
    Valves - 24v
    Engine Power - 204 BHP
    Engine Torque - 181 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 15
    Co2 Emissions - 217 g/km - 1 Year/£260.00 6 months/£143.00

    C280 -
    Urban - 21.2 mpg
    Extra Urban - 40.9 mpg
    Combined - 30.7 mpg
    0-62 mph - 7.2 seconds
    Top Speed - 152 mph
    Cylinders - 6
    Valves - 24v
    Engine Power - 231 BHP
    Engine Torque - 221 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 16
    Co2 Emissions - 224 g/km - 1 Year/£260.00 6 months/£143.00

    C320 CDI -
    Urban - 28.2 mpg
    Extra Urban - 47.9 mpg
    Combined - 38.7 mpg
    0-62 mph - 6.9 seconds
    Top Speed - 155 mph
    Cylinders - 6
    Valves - 24v
    Engine Power - 224 BHP
    Engine Torque - 376 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 16
    Co2 Emissions - 193 g/km - 1 Year/£245.00 6 months/£134.75

    C350 -
    Urban - 19.9 mpg
    Extra Urban - 38.2 mpg
    Combined - 28.5 mpg
    0-62 mph - 6.4 seconds
    Top Speed - 155 mph
    Cylinders - 6
    Valves - 24v
    Engine Power - 272 BHP
    Engine Torque - 258 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 17
    Co2 Emissions - 232 g/km - 1 Year/£445.00 6 months/£244.75

    C180 CGI (Blue-efficiency) -
    Urban - 28 mpg
    Extra Urban - 52.3 mpg
    Combined - 39.8 mpg
    0-62 mph - 9.9 seconds
    Top Speed - 138 mph
    Cylinders - 4
    Valves - 16v
    Engine Power - 156 BHP
    Engine Torque - 170 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 14
    Co2 Emissions - 169 g/km - 1 Year/£190.00 6 months/£104.50

    C200 CDI (Blue-efficiency) -
    Urban - 36.2 mpg
    Extra Urban - 58.9 mpg
    Combined - 47.9 mpg
    0-62 mph - 9.7 seconds
    Top Speed - 133 mph
    Cylinders - 4
    Valves - 16v
    Engine Power - 136 BHP
    Engine Torque - 266 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 14
    Co2 Emissions - 155 g/km - 1 Year/£165.00 6 months/£90.75

    C220 CDI (Blue-efficiency) -
    Urban - 35.8 mpg
    Extra Urban - 62.8 mpg
    Combined - 48.7 mpg
    0-62 mph - 7.6 seconds
    Top Speed - 143 mph
    Cylinders - 4
    Valves - 16v
    Engine Power - 170 BHP
    Engine Torque - 295 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 14
    Co2 Emissions - 153 g/km - 1 Year/£165.00 6 months/£90.75

    C250 CDI (Blue-efficiency) -
    Urban - 35.8 mpg
    Extra Urban - 62.8 mpg
    Combined - 48.7 mpg
    0-62 mph - 7 seconds
    Top Speed - 149 mph
    Cylinders - 4
    Valves - 16v
    Engine Power - 204 BHP
    Engine Torque - 369 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 15
    Co2 Emissions - 153 g/km - 1 Year/£165.00 6 months/£90.75

    C250 CGI (Blue-efficiency) -
    Urban - 26.9 mpg
    Extra Urban - 48.7 mpg
    Combined - 37.2 mpg
    0-62 mph - 7.4 seconds
    Top Speed - 149 mph
    Cylinders - 4
    Valves - 16v
    Engine Power - 204 BHP
    Engine Torque - 229 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 16
    Co2 Emissions - 178 g/km - 1 Year/£210.00 6 months/£115.50

    C350 CDI (Blue-efficiency) -
    Urban - 32.8 mpg
    Extra Urban - 52.3 mpg
    Combined - 42.8 mpg
    0-62 mph - 6.4 seconds
    Top Speed - 155 mph
    Cylinders - 6
    Valves - 24v
    Engine Power - 231 BHP
    Engine Torque - 398 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 16 (Guess)
    Co2 Emissions - 174 g/km - 1 Year/£190.00 6 months/£104.50

    C350 CGI (Blue-efficiency) -
    Urban - 19.9 mpg
    Extra Urban - 38.2 mpg
    Combined - 28.5 mpg
    0-62 mph - 6.4 seconds
    Top Speed - 155 mph
    Cylinders - 6
    Valves - 24v
    Engine Power - 272 BHP
    Engine Torque - 258 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 17
    Co2 Emissions - 232 g/km - 1 Year/£445.00 6 months/£244.75

    C63 AMG -
    Urban - 13.9 mpg
    Extra Urban - 30.1 mpg
    Combined - 21.1 mpg
    0-62 mph - 4.5 seconds
    Top Speed - 155 mph
    Cylinders - 8
    Valves - 32v
    Engine Power - 457 BHP
    Engine Torque - 443 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 19
    Co2 Emissions - 312 g/km - 1 Year/£460.00 6 months/£253.00

    C180 CGI (Facelift/2011 onwards) -
    Urban - 32.5 mpg
    Extra Urban - 56.5 mpg
    Combined - 44.1 mpg
    0-62 mph - 8.9 seconds
    Top Speed - 139 mph
    Cylinders - 4
    Valves - 16v
    Engine Power - 156 BHP
    Engine Torque - 184 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 14 (Guess)
    Co2 Emissions - 160 g/km - 1 Year/£165.00 6 months/£90.75

    C200 CDI (Facelift/2011 onwards) -
    Urban - 46.3 mpg
    Extra Urban - 65.7 mpg
    Combined - 57.6 mpg
    0-62 mph - 9.1 seconds
    Top Speed - 134 mph
    Cylinders - 4
    Valves - 16v
    Engine Power - 146 BHP
    Engine Torque - 266 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 14
    Co2 Emissions - 140 g/km - 1 Year/£115.00 6 months/£63.25

    C220 CDI (Facelift/2011 onwards) -
    Urban - 47.1 mpg
    Extra Urban - 68.9 mpg
    Combined - 58.9 mpg
    0-62 mph - 8.1 seconds
    Top Speed - 143 mph
    Cylinders - 4
    Valves - 16v
    Engine Power - 170 BHP
    Engine Torque - 295 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 14
    Co2 Emissions - 136 g/km - 1 Year/£115.00 6 months/£63.25

    C250 CDI (Facelift/2011 onwards) -
    Urban - 47.1 mpg
    Extra Urban - 68.9 mpg
    Combined - 58.9 mpg
    0-62 mph - 7.1 seconds
    Top Speed - 149 mph
    Cylinders - 4
    Valves - 16v
    Engine Power - 204 BHP
    Engine Torque - 369 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 15
    Co2 Emissions - 136 g/km - 1 Year/£115.00 6 months/£63.25

    C250 CGI (Facelift/2011 onwards) -
    Urban - 31.7 mpg
    Extra Urban - 52.3 mpg
    Combined - 42.2 mpg
    0-62 mph - 7.2 seconds
    Top Speed - 149 mph
    Cylinders - 4
    Valves - 16v
    Engine Power - 204 BHP
    Engine Torque - 229 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 16
    Co2 Emissions - 161 g/km - 1 Year/£165.00 6 months/£90.75

    C350 CDI (Facelift/2011 onwards) -
    Urban - 32.8 mpg
    Extra Urban - 52.3 mpg
    Combined - 42.8 mpg
    0-62 mph - 6.4 seconds
    Top Speed - 155 mph
    Cylinders - 6
    Valves - 24v
    Engine Power - 231 BHP
    Engine Torque - 398 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 16 (Guess)
    Co2 Emissions - 174 g/km - 1 Year/£190.00 6 months/£104.50

    C63 AMG (Facelift/2011 onwards) -
    Urban - 15.6 mpg
    Extra Urban - 33.2 mpg
    Combined - 23.5 mpg
    EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUS MODEL

    C63 AMG DR520 -
    520 BHP
    0-60 - 4.1 seconds
    Top Speed - 186 mph
     
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    Mercman786

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    Anyone with a W204 or planning to buy one, this is worth a look
     
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    Excellent.
     
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  4. Adam230K

    Adam230K MB Enthusiast

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    I think the C350CDI engines are closer to 260bhp than 230, but its a good guide. Few funny figures!
     
  5. Red C220

    Red C220 MB Enthusiast

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    New C350cdi is quoted 265hp on the mercedes configurator.
     
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    So the facelifted C220cdi and C250Ci BE are slower to 60 than the pre facelifted BE C220cdi and C250cdi.

    The only mechanical changes being 7g swapped for 5g in the slower facelifted cars.

    C220 CDI (Blue-efficiency) -
    Urban - 35.8 mpg
    Extra Urban - 62.8 mpg
    Combined - 48.7 mpg
    0-62 mph - 7.6 seconds
    Top Speed - 143 mph
    Cylinders - 4
    Valves - 16v
    Engine Power - 170 BHP
    Engine Torque - 295 lbs/ft

    C250 CDI (Blue-efficiency) -
    Urban - 35.8 mpg
    Extra Urban - 62.8 mpg
    Combined - 48.7 mpg
    0-62 mph - 7 seconds
    Top Speed - 149 mph
    Cylinders - 4
    Valves - 16v
    Engine Power - 204 BHP
    Engine Torque - 369 lbs/ft

    C220 CDI (Facelift/2011 onwards) -
    Urban - 47.1 mpg
    Extra Urban - 68.9 mpg
    Combined - 58.9 mpg
    0-62 mph - 8.1 seconds
    Top Speed - 143 mph
    Cylinders - 4
    Valves - 16v
    Engine Power - 170 BHP
    Engine Torque - 295 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 14
    Co2 Emissions - 136 g/km - 1 Year/£115.00 6 months/£63.25

    C250 CDI (Facelift/2011 onwards) -
    Urban - 47.1 mpg
    Extra Urban - 68.9 mpg
    Combined - 58.9 mpg
    0-62 mph - 7.1 seconds
    Top Speed - 149 mph
    Cylinders - 4
    Valves - 16v
    Engine Power - 204 BHP
    Engine Torque - 369 lbs/ft

    Insurance Group - 15
    Co2 Emissions - 136 g/km - 1 Year/£115.00 6 months/£63.25
     
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    Mercman786

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    That is true, I thought the 350 CDI engines had 265 BHP too?? But this was the info I was supplied with, anyone else who sees this thread... THE C350 CDI HAS 265 BHP, not 231... Thanks for your input guys.
     
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    Thats true, thanks for pointing that out
     
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    What I should say in the facelifted 7g cars defence is the jump of MPG.

    In a 5g car the engine is doing 70mph at 2000rpm in 7g its 1800rpm. Surely not enough of a drop to change the MPG to the better.

    However, it will be improved.
     
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    A number of the figures listed above differ from those listed by Mercedes.

    I think someone has confused Manuals and Auto's

    Listed figures are mostly supplied for Manual.

    0-60 shown on Mercedes.co.uk are as follows:-

    Saloon

    C220 CDI 8.4 manual 8.1 Auto

    C250 CDI 7.0 manual 7.1 Auto

    Estate

    C220 CDI 8.5 manual 8.3 Auto

    C250 CDI 7.3 manual 7.4 Auto
     
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  11. Red C220

    Red C220 MB Enthusiast

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    W204 pdf Brochure download HERE

    Page 76 & 77 show published numbers.

    Estate and Saloon differ
     
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    Mercman786

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    Nice one Red C220 :thumb:
     
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    Stop start will be part of the cause for the improved mpg.
     
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    Thats true, forgot about that. Thanks for mentioning that crockers
     
  15. grober

    grober MB Master

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    It should perhaps be pointed out that figures like these are pretty academic although they have a use for comparison purposes. Countless road tests find that in real world driving many of these figures are simply not achievable on a routine basis. If anything it's the Mercedes diesel engines that tend to be more optimistic rather than the petrols. More relevant perhaps is the quiet "torquey" nature of the new turbocharged petrols which are a vast improvement on the previous " whiney" kompressor engines. In the longer term the repair costs of the twin turbo 4 cylinder diesels with their valve gear at the rear of the engine ! and chequered injector history may make for "interesting reading" in the future.:dk:
     
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    Markedes Active Member

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    Whatcar and Auto express....state the same info for the W204 W203 and the B class. all the same info as being stated as thread starter.

    Look forward to the reveiw on the ML and see if any different :)
     
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