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Which browser do you use?

Chrome on everything for me, not had any issues with it being slow or slowing down
 
I understand all manner of practices lurk on the dark web. (I do not access the dark web either to be clear)
It's a big tool for hackers I do know.

When I last checked, the dark web sites seemed to be mostly used for people selling drugs or personal information / stolen credit card details. Definitely worth a look for those who are curious - quite eye opening.
 
+1 for Brave here.

Downloaded it this morning and it's much faster than IE, chrome or firefox.

I tested it out on the dreaded Autoexpress website which i always have problems with and it's was great to use.

I'll tested it out on MB world next which is one of the worst for loading and crashing.

Cheers OP :thumb:
 
Do you mean you get high CPU usage when running Chrome?

No, that's a different issue. Chrome when working normally can consume a lot of memory especially with many tabs and / or windows of it open.
 
Always use Chrome now on the PC. I find it synchronises with other devices faster and better than many others. Edge was an OK browser but would never sync properly.
 
TOR, but I can’t tell you anymore.......

Oooh. The dark web beckons:D

TOR isn't just synonymous with the dark web.

A lot of big companies are switching over to it because of the influence and information / data which Google has collected through 2/3rds of the planet using it.

You don't actually have to access it and TOR is an incredibly private browser when combined with a VPN.

If you want privacy - don't be using Edge or Chrome and no VPN!
 
If you want privacy - don't be using Edge or Chrome and no VPN!

I was pretty shocked when I discovered many years ago how, if you're signed into your Google account, Chrome logs your full browsing history within your Google account itself (as opposed to the browser). It's possible to disable this, but they certainly don't make it clear that they're doing it (it will be in their terms which are so long, no one reads them).

I am actually considering a VPN - not that I've got anything to hide, but I just like my privacy - any recommendations? NordVPN seems to be popular...?

And for anyone who says "nothing to hide, nothing to fear", do you close and lock the bathroom door when you're using the toilet or having a shower? Does your house have curtains? Why? What are you hiding??!
 
No, that's a different issue. Chrome when working normally can consume a lot of memory especially with many tabs and / or windows of it open.

If you have loads of windows and tabs open, surely an increase in RAM usage would be expected...

I've never noticed unusually high RAM consumption when using Chrome, but I have had issues with ridiculous CPU usage.
 
I was pretty shocked when I discovered many years ago how, if you're signed into your Google account, Chrome logs your full browsing history within your Google account itself (as opposed to the browser). It's possible to disable this, but they certainly don't make it clear that they're doing it (it will be in their terms which are so long, no one reads them).

I am actually considering a VPN - not that I've got anything to hide, but I just like my privacy - any recommendations? NordVPN seems to be popular...?

And for anyone who says "nothing to hide, nothing to fear", do you close and lock the bathroom door when you're using the toilet or having a shower? Does your house have curtains? Why? What are you hiding??!

How much did you pay for Chrome? For Google? For Maps? They have to make money somehow. Otherwise it's back to £90 for Microsoft encarta and the Yellow pages.
 
How much did you pay for Chrome? For Google? For Maps? They have to make money somehow. Otherwise it's back to £90 for Microsoft encarta and the Yellow pages.

I don't object to them making money - but they should just be up front and clear about what the cost is to the user, whether it's money or personal data. Would you expect the price of your next car to be buried within a 30 page legal document?

It's also perfectly possible for products to be free at the point of use because they are funded by means other than collection of personal data (e.g. advertisers / manufacturers who want to integrate Google products with their devices etc).

Just because something is free, it doesn't mean it's funded by the collection of personal data, and it certainly doesn't mean that funding free things by the collection of personal data is acceptable without question.

(in my opinion, obviously)

EDIT:

I didn't phrase that very well.

I meant to say that just because a product is free, we shouldn't necessarily tolerate being raped of our personal data or accept it as a given, as the company's involved are probably still making a load of money from it in other ways which are less dubious and more socially/morally acceptable.
 
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I was pretty shocked when I discovered many years ago how, if you're signed into your Google account, Chrome logs your full browsing history within your Google account itself (as opposed to the browser). It's possible to disable this, but they certainly don't make it clear that they're doing it (it will be in their terms which are so long, no one reads them).

I am actually considering a VPN - not that I've got anything to hide, but I just like my privacy - any recommendations? NordVPN seems to be popular...?

And for anyone who says "nothing to hide, nothing to fear", do you close and lock the bathroom door when you're using the toilet or having a shower? Does your house have curtains? Why? What are you hiding??!
What is so bad about your browsing history being logged in your Google account? Maybe I’m too trusting, but I’m struggling to see it.
 
I was pretty shocked when I discovered many years ago how, if you're signed into your Google account, Chrome logs your full browsing history within your Google account itself (as opposed to the browser). It's possible to disable this, but they certainly don't make it clear that they're doing it (it will be in their terms which are so long, no one reads them).

I am actually considering a VPN - not that I've got anything to hide, but I just like my privacy - any recommendations? NordVPN seems to be popular...?

And for anyone who says "nothing to hide, nothing to fear", do you close and lock the bathroom door when you're using the toilet or having a shower? Does your house have curtains? Why? What are you hiding??!

I wasn't aware Google did that.

In terms of VPNs, I understand most of the top players are good so NordVPN, PureVPN, Norton, TorGuard, TunnelBear although I've never used any of them personally.

The only things that annoy me are when some companies like a certain airline which sounds a bit like "Bryan Blair" will spot you've browsed their website and looked at flights and based on your previous browsing, they then put the prices up. They aren't the only ones though. Others do it and if you book certain things in certain other countries other than "Rip Off" Britain (Eurostar, car hire etc.), there are significant savings to be had.

So VPNs are useful.

If you have loads of windows and tabs open, surely an increase in RAM usage would be expected...

I've never noticed unusually high RAM consumption when using Chrome, but I have had issues with ridiculous CPU usage.

It tends to be more if you have a much larger, perhaps disproportionate number i.e. you never close any, number of windows and / or tabs.

I am someone who will only tend to have open what is needed so it doesn't affect me personally but I have seen it plenty of times on other machines.
 
What is so bad about your browsing history being logged in your Google account? Maybe I’m too trusting, but I’m struggling to see it.

Well many people are probably completely oblivious to the fact that Google has a full log of every website they've ever visited for the last 10 years. Granted, a lot of people probably don't care at all, but a lot of people I'm sure will find it creepy and unnecessary. And what other data is Google collecting that we don't know about? And how could all this data potentially be used in the future? We already have police in this country acting way outside their authority by "checking people's thinking" for comments posted on social media - imagine if all UK police officers were armed whilst they're telling you off for posting controversial things on Twitter!

It's the 1984 issue - people either get it, and care about it, or they don't.
 

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