pauldmaynard
Active Member
If you dont want it to rust away best you dont buy an old mercedes
mattc
MB Enthusiast
Yes, I should buy a newer 210 should not I
or early 211.Mine was a serious point though; having something like that car implies a duty of care too to ensure the thing survives - damp UK weather would help its demise if I did not look after it properly.
popuptoaster
Active Member
cant see the point of buying a car and hiding it in a garage, might as well just buy a painting, cars are made to be used, mine live out in the open and have to work for a living, keep em clean underneath and dont let paint damage get out of control and they'll last ok.
mercboiuk
MB Enthusiast
That car has been for sale for quite some months now.
Give it an AMG bodykit and some R129 AMG 18" split rims and it would give it the look to go with the performance!
Darren
Give it an AMG bodykit and some R129 AMG 18" split rims and it would give it the look to go with the performance!
Darren
mercboiuk
MB Enthusiast
Don't forget their were E60 AMG cars, E60 Limited cars, then 500E 6.0 and later converted E500s & 500Es.
Despite that I would guess "not many".
Darren
talbir
MB Enthusiast
That car has been for sale for quite some months now.
Give it an AMG bodykit and some R129 AMG 18" split rims and it would give it the look to go with the performance!
Darren
No AMG bodykit made for the w124 E500/E60...except custom kits in Japan.
Pricey at 26.5k Euros however it is an E60 and it is 040 black with black leather which adds dollar to the price of a w124 500e/e60, since 040 is rare as hen's teeth on a w124 500e !
talbir
talbir
MB Enthusiast
There were approx 120 E60's, this number would include E60 limiteds.
E60 prices are inflated and i personally don't see the point....it's an AMG model but one which has probably seen the least input from AMG ever !
The only AMG modifications to the 500E cars to creat the E60 were :
- bore out cylinders to 100m and 6.0 displacement
- fit the crankshaft from a 560 SEC engine (5.6 M117) (they are machined to fit the M119, any crank from an M117 must be machined to fit the M119)
- fit high-lift cams into the M119 heads
- remap the EZL and LH module to provide the extra fuel/timing required
- AMG suspension kit, dropping the 500E by another inch or so
That's it frankly. No body kits, no exhaust systems (save a rear muffler made available to certain markets (as it was illegal in the US!), no interiors etc.
A very limited breathe-on from AMG to create the E60....and only some 55 extra bhp. Consider the prices though of AMG's EZL and LH module for the E60.....1200gbp and 3600gbp respectively !!!! All because they carry an HWA part number. Oh, and the EZL is NLA !!!!
talbir
mercboiuk
MB Enthusiast
Thanks for the info, Talbir. I had a sneaky suspicion you'd be "the man in the know" 
As for bodykits, it was on a couple of Japanese examples I've seen the kit fitted.
You say these are custom fitted kits? Were they adjusted to take into account the wider arches of the E500/500E/E60 shape?
I've also noted on these Japanese cars a different centre contsole, with wider wood. Any ideas as to why?
An example of the kit, wheels and centre console can be seen on this one example from J AUTO in Japan:
http://search.carhoo.jp/8504/car_detail1080729311.html
Darren
As for bodykits, it was on a couple of Japanese examples I've seen the kit fitted.
You say these are custom fitted kits? Were they adjusted to take into account the wider arches of the E500/500E/E60 shape?
I've also noted on these Japanese cars a different centre contsole, with wider wood. Any ideas as to why?
An example of the kit, wheels and centre console can be seen on this one example from J AUTO in Japan:
http://search.carhoo.jp/8504/car_detail1080729311.html
Darren
talbir
MB Enthusiast
That is all AMG Japan stuff....AMG Japan had so much more inventory !
The custom wood is very much a design based on the SL 129 wood, extremely fiddly to get it to work...it's not something that just snaps onto the console, you have to really make it work. I have two sets of that AMG wood in my garage ! Zero time to make it fit.
The w124 500E arches mean that side sills, front bumper and rear bumper are all arched outwards at the end points, so a stock AMG w124 kit will not fit, not without major major surgery. AMG Japan might have produced a custom 500E AMG bodykit, but i guess that they might be aftermarket custom fabrication.
The 500E almost doesn't need a bodykit, but the examples i have seen in Japan look awesome when done !
BTW, i forgot, AMG did do a roll bar for the w124 E60....30mm thick ! I have one of those in my garage....they transform the handling charachteristics but also transform your bank balance at 670 gbp each ! NLa either !
cheers
talbir
The custom wood is very much a design based on the SL 129 wood, extremely fiddly to get it to work...it's not something that just snaps onto the console, you have to really make it work. I have two sets of that AMG wood in my garage ! Zero time to make it fit.
The w124 500E arches mean that side sills, front bumper and rear bumper are all arched outwards at the end points, so a stock AMG w124 kit will not fit, not without major major surgery. AMG Japan might have produced a custom 500E AMG bodykit, but i guess that they might be aftermarket custom fabrication.
The 500E almost doesn't need a bodykit, but the examples i have seen in Japan look awesome when done !
BTW, i forgot, AMG did do a roll bar for the w124 E60....30mm thick ! I have one of those in my garage....they transform the handling charachteristics but also transform your bank balance at 670 gbp each ! NLa either !
cheers
talbir
dougal74
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- Past: 2008 S211 E280CDi A/G Estate, 2000 ML430, 1992 300TE Auto, 1995 E320 Coupe - all gone
Talbir,
Can we arrange that someone with a video camera comes 'round to your garage and films it and all the goodies inside so that we can all dribble onto our keyboards?
Better than an episode of Die Ludolphs any day...
Cheers, Adam
The E60 AMG is probably (in my opinion) the best driving 124 and most definitely the best built 124 of them all! even though, as talbir says, there isnt that much AMG input in this car, compared to their modern counterparts, it didnt feel like a 124, almost like (should I say it) BMWesque in its handling characteristics, I am not trying to throw a spanner in the MB works, that's just how I felt it handled, having a slightly stiffer and lower set up than the beloved E500
I miss mine terribly :-(
Regards,
Terry
I miss mine terribly :-(
Regards,
Terry
talbir
MB Enthusiast
That handling is all thanks to the AMG suspension and AMG roll bar on the E60....the suspension kit compromised of all 4 springs, front shocks and rear hydraulic struts.
talbir
talbir
