1 million stone chips

[Dieselman]

Good points there TV.
I'm touching some chips in and have filled them several times to get the right depth of paint.
The paint I have is the actual body shop water based though so it works a little different to acrylic touch in sticks.

I'll probably end up having the bonnet resprayed though if it doesn't work out, although the car is a daily use car so it seems superfluous.

 

[Dieselman]

Read my mind Dieselman, I have have just looekd up the same DW post that I remember from a few weeks back.
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=64486
Just thought I'd check other replies prior to posting. So thanks for putting this up. It certainly seems a cost effective way of detailing with chips, bearing in mind that following a panel respay you could get another stone chip on the way home.

Interesting that it mentions Isoproyl Alchohol. I've got 5 litres in the garage, though recently using a spray can I found it didn't touch it at all, though it might with an acrylic touch in stick.

 

[television]

Interesting that it mentions Isoproyl Alchohol. I've got 5 litres in the garage, though recently using a spray can I found it didn't touch it at all, though it might with an acrylic touch in stick.

You are dead right it wont touch it as its not from the same family, when wiping off the fill from the original paint it is better to put the cloth with a little T cut over a block as using your finger it will follow the hole and you do not want this, its hard enough getting it in there in the first place.

If its good weather at some of the meets maybe I could do a demo on stone chips, but not unatended ones that have become a huge hole due to water sitting in the hole too long

 

[fuzzer]

do you know ....

Since i gave up mercs and went onto bmw's the amount of stonechips my cars have has dramatically reduced ???

 

[glojo]

How sad that we cannot buy a paint that offers some sprt of resistance to these horrible chips. When we sold our 210 there were any number of stone chips on the bonnet, but with the 211 and its nano paint technology there has been a substantial difference in numbers. I have only found one on our 211, one in just over three years!

Is there any hard wearing paint that could be used?

My vote = C

Where do we vote?

Regards
John

 

[television]

glojo[/left];552998]How sad that we cannot buy a paint that offers some

sprt​

of resistance to these horrible chips. When we sold our 210 there were any number of stone chips on the bonnet, but with the 211 and its

nano​

paint technology there has been a substantial difference in numbers. I have only found one on our 211, one in just over three years!

Is there any hard wearing paint that could be used?

My vote = C

Where do we vote?

Regards
John

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Dieselman has a better head than me for knowing when a stone reaches its maximum speed / power point as to the distance you keep from the car in front, there must be some formula

 

[kjay]

Everybodies wrong!!

The answere is 'd' - fit AMG bumper!



But if we're been sensible, I would reckon on respraying the damaged areas. It's an inconvenient expense, but not much in relation to the value of your car.
I have seen those plastic sheets that are heat shrunk (?) onto your bumper to protect from stone chips. Could be worth looking at once you've repaired the damage.

.

 

[Dieselman]

I have seen those plastic sheets that are heat shrunk (?) onto your bumper to protect from stone chips. Could be worth looking at once you've repaired the damage.

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Stick on 3M film.

I am the only person to have them on the lead edge of the rear arches on a W210. How cool is that..???

Err...not very...

Genuine part as well...

 

[glojo]

In America and some other countries they have something called a car bra

Regards
John

 

[mercboiuk]

I say respray the bonnet and bumper. The finish will just look better, IMO

I've just had mine done for the 3rd time in as many years, thanks to Norfolk council deciding to resurface our country lane, not long after I had the bumper sprayed (for resurface read "chuck on stone chips and cars will bed them in )

Darren

 

[television]

In America and some other countries they have something called a car bra

Regards
John

I think the lady in the painting could do with one of those

 

[television]

This is what is on the Volvo, 10 years and not one spec of rust, it hardly needs them, this is what Dieselman has I think

 

[television]

Interesting article from MB


http://www.mercedes-benzfinance.co....594267-1-0-0-0-0-0-12409-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0.html

 

[Steveatki]

Unfortunately I have just remodelled the front of my 2007 W211, using the rear of a citroen c4, the damage on my car was substantial the citroen minimal. Anway, when I took the car to Mercedes for an estimate, I asked if there was any problem in respraying the car in nano paint and all the heat treatment that goes with it, the car is 12 months old and was chip free. I had a 2004 W203 that didn't have nano which was a mess after 2 yrs. The repair guy told me that all respraying is done using nano even if the paint was not nano before because of the problems with chipping previous paints.

Recommend you get a respray at Mercedes and ensure it is nano.

 

[Dieselman]

This is what is on the Volvo, 10 years and not one spec of rust, it hardly needs them, this is what Dieselman has I think

They be the ones TV.

They work very well indeed.

And as you're all going to ask... A210 817 00 48. About £10.

 

[Rory]

This works wonders on motorbikes...
http://www.invisiblepatterns.co.uk

I'm sure they have car kits as well...

The boys with Porsches over on PistonHeads rave about PaintShield:
http://www.paintshield.co.uk

There's also another that gets mentioned too - Armourfend: http://www.armourfend.co.uk/dealers.htm


I must say that I've never had a car that chips like my W203. I can't do a long journey without attracting an audible hit or two, and every time I wash the car I find several new chips. Yet I drive much more gently than I ever drove my company cars.

I did see this way of getting rid of stone-chips which may be of particular interest for those who have a polisher:
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=20127

 

[glojo]

Unfortunately I have just remodelled the front of my 2007 W211, using the rear of a citroen c4, the damage on my car was substantial the citroen minimal. Anway, when I took the car to Mercedes for an estimate, I asked if there was any problem in respraying the car in nano paint and all the heat treatment that goes with it, the car is 12 months old and was chip free. I had a 2004 W203 that didn't have nano which was a mess after 2 yrs. The repair guy told me that all respraying is done using nano even if the paint was not nano before because of the problems with chipping previous paints.

Recommend you get a respray at Mercedes and ensure it is nano.

I think we should commend your bodyshop for stripping the car right down before placing it in a bake oven as the nano clear coat needs to be baked at a minimum temperature of 140 degrees centigrade and I would suspect any soft rubber, insulation or whatever is not going to fare very well!

During the electrostatic paint application process, the binding agent particles float around freely at first in the liquid paint. It is not until the car body is placed inside the paintshop ovens at a temperature of some 140°C that the particles cross-link into a dense network.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

The repair guy told me that all respraying is done using nano even if the paint was not nano before because of the problems with chipping previous paints.

Call me a great big cynic but that sounds like someone telling the customer what he thinks the customer wants to hear.

I may be wrong...

 

[television]

Call me a great big cynic but that sounds like someone telling the customer what he thinks the customer wants to hear.

I may be wrong...

No complete car is baked over 40c

 

[glojo]

No complete car is baked over 40c

That is how I see it and I fear Bobby Dazzler may well be right.

I know personally of a US owner that had bodywork damage on his 211, it was less than 12 months old and no paint shop was able to use nano top coating. They could all get the correct Mercedes colour but he insisted on having exactly the same type of top coating which needed to be baked at a certified 140 degrees. He insisted the car be restored to an as new condition and in the end the insurance company wrote the vehicle off.

There have been a few posts where folks believe they are getting this nano type paint but I have my doubts and there has been no change in the baking procedures, hence the very long delay in the E-class 4Matic being produced with this paint?? (I still have no idea if the plant has been upgraded)

John