To everyone else, I apologise for the long post
I’m not sure whether you see me as being in the red
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corner or blue
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corner, however I’d like to think I’m fairly well balanced on most topics, and especially the merits of AMG V8 engines
I love the M156, it’s a great engine. I can’t ever remember reading any MBClubbers write anything other than it being a great engine, even if their personal preference is for something else entirely.
I can’t ever recall reading any negative comments or unfair criticism whether serious or in jest. There may be a few which I’ve forgotten, but they will be in the small majority (if at all).
The reason that I and others comment about other engines is because you don’t just say you love the M156, you choose to make negative comments about other engines, cars, induction methods, etc.
If you just posted “
I love my M156” there wouldn’t be any replies from others mentioning other engines. But if you might post “
I love my my M156 and the M157 is rubbish” (exaggerated for effect).
Whilst not an example of such a comment on the M157, this is a very recent example of doing what I describe above, this time referring to sheds …I mean SUVs and the ML 63 AMG specifically.
Also a rw driven car is much greater fun that a 4 wheel drive shed lol.
A car will be more agile in the Twisties than a shed on steroids. I have a feeling any engine in the cumbersome ml body will never feel as fun than a cars lower gravity chassis.
Referring to it as a shed is inviting a response, it’s deliberately inflammatory. Everyone who cares already knows that a car ought to handle more sharply than an SUV, the shed reference is unnecessary.
Hence the reason that in my reply I referred to “rw driven cars” as sheds, not because I believe they are - far from it - but to highlight that it’s inflammatory by mirroring your language back to you.
All things are relative. A sports car could be said to be be much greater fun than a rw driven car shed, and more agile in the twisties than a shed with back seats and on steroids.
I suspect that
@E55BOF will be about as concerned as I am about you referring to an ML 63 as being a shed, as we already know what it is and isn’t. But others may be more sensitive.
Apply that to similar comments about the M157 of which you have made many - albeit the most recent was about the platform - and you might see why people reply about their own preferences.
The irony is that there’s a void of evidence of anyone being inflammatory about the M156 but you regularly mention that others do, or don’t respect, or don’t give credit, etc.
We all love the fact you are really really really in to the M156, the W/S212 prefacelift, and the M156 in a W/S212 prefacelift, and you don’t need to be inflammatory about others to make that point.
If you ever change your mind about sampling other AMG V8 engines (and other Mercedes platforms) then I may be able to help you out, as I might be able to borrow some from my mate Dave.
We really need to go to Santa Pod to settle some scores! A track day would be good but being competitive is perhaps better left to a drag strip rather than a track day.
Enjoy your M156 in your W/S212, it’s a great engine in a great car.