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russb said:
go then mate....how do you use one.... how exactly does it work....can it measure paintwork on all surfaces and just as a real teaser, how much clear would you expect to be removing....how would you proceed with machine polishing in the following situations....what would you assume if you were met with excessive readings....also what would you consider to be a safe read to work with....

it appears that everyone knows how to do everyone elses job....maybe i will have a go at fitting a new boiler:crazy:
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Sorry Russ - I've just asked the Eastern European at the £5 drive through car wash to fit mine. He said "I do very cheap job for you!"
 
billywhiz said:
To others it's something they enjoy doing - and getting satisfaction from - most if not all pro detailers will treat the car with the respect that it's there own - I hate painting, to me that also is a brain numbing task - thats why I pay someone to do it for me.
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Sure, I fully agree but how much does a painter and decorator get paid?

Bottom end prolly less than £60 a day and top end about £100.

As I said for £600 in labour I expect 6 skilled man days of work.
 
fatdazza said:
Sorry Russ - I've just asked the Eastern European at the £5 drive through car wash to fit mine. He said "I do very cheap job for you!"
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Hahaha :D - well I shouldn't laugh, they knocked on the door and quoted me £7 to renew mine, when I asked why so much they went off one about using sponges & extra scratchpads for the smooth services - I sent em packing to the vocal strains of "special price, special price"
 
Sp!ke said:
Well actually a lot of us do complain or go to an independent that charges half as much and does a better job just without the marble lined reception area. still over £60 an hr then....plus parts....but no marble flooring....



No, you are right, less than an hour I recon .. probably a few minutes in reality... thinking back to personal experiences, about 5 minutes. :D



If I bought the somewhat overpriced paint thickness reader I would - no skill there, just a one off investment. In reality a close inspection of the area being worked on will in 99% of cases be good enough info to go from. Ask yourself does the scratch you are trying to polish out deeper then the clearcoat or top coat? Not exactly hard to know whether it'll polish out or not is it? you know much my dear compatriot...maybe you should become a full time detailer without the kit, must be loads needing work done on the cheap....

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In a 15+ hour professional detail, how much time is actually spent on paint correction rather than the washing and claying bit that frankly anyone can do from the halfords line up?

I'd say in percentage terms, probably very little ...30%, maybe less even?about 8-10hrs the rest is completion, making sure that no evidence of the detailer has been, you know when amateurs leave residue all over the rubbers and trims....
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you seem to have the scratches covered anyway....
 
Sp!ke said:
Sure, I fully agree but how much does a painter and decorator get paid?

Bottom end prolly less than £60 a day and top end about £100.

As I said for £600 in labour I expect 6 skilled man days of work.
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I wish I could find a decent decorator for £60 a day!
 
Sp!ke said:
Sure, I fully agree but how much does a painter and decorator get paid?

Bottom end prolly less than £60 a day and top end about £100.

As I said for £600 in labour I expect 6 skilled man days of work.
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As i said earlier tho Spike, people now are expecting a job done cheap but not a cheap job.

And I'm sure there are people out there who will offer a car detail for less than £100

It's an open market, pays ya money, takes ya chances.

But what would your professional decorator cost ? - certainly not £100 a day.

:)
 
russb said:
go then mate....how do you use one.... how exactly does it work....can it measure paintwork on all surfaces and just as a real teaser, how much clear would you expect to be removing....how would you proceed with machine polishing in the following situations....what would you assume if you were met with excessive readings....also what would you consider to be a safe read to work with....
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[Groan].. I can answer most of this off the cuff and for the few areas I'm a little grey on the answer is a few clicks away.
 
fatdazza said:
I wish I could find a decent decorator for £60 a day!
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I can find you one for £20 a day which is the current black market rate in London for illegals.


Its probably cheaper elsewhere in the country.
 
i agree with billywhizz...you pays your money ya takes ya chance....but warning shots dont often get fired until the guy says 100quid for 14 hrs work...now you can bet your bottom dollar there are no insurances in place....

is that really a wise move....but lets get things back down to earth....not all detailers charge stupid money....my hrly rate runs out around 23quid an hr, which I dont think is bad considering everything is included....

[Groan].. I can answer most of this off the cuff and for the few areas I'm a little grey on the answer is a few clicks away.
all of it then....
 
Sp!ke said:
I can find you one for £20 a day which is the current black market rate in London for illegals.


Its probably cheaper elsewhere in the country.
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lol :thumb: - and get the car done after using the clean up rags - result :D
 
Hi,

Anyone that can do this with halfords products plus lack of experience and know how I would be very surprised :-

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And for those who say eastern europeans do a good job then i pity your vehicles paintwork.

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Sp!ke said:
I can find you one for £20 a day which is the current black market rate in London for illegals.


Its probably cheaper elsewhere in the country.
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I said a decent decorator not an illegal immigrant. There are plenty of those at my £5 drive thru "car wash"
 
Do any Eastern Europeans take pride in their work? I'm sure some must do....
 
tpwuk said:
Do any Eastern Europeans take pride in their work? I'm sure some must do....
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Listen, they are employed to clean (cough) as many as they can and as long as people keep driving into their scratch parlour then they will continue to trade.

I for one don't mind them because I get the call from the owner to put the scratches right.

I might spend 40 hours wetsanding and machine polishing a car that took them 4 minutes to damage - go figure
 
fatdazza said:
I said a decent decorator not an illegal immigrant. There are plenty of those at my £5 drive thru "car wash"
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Are you saying that an illegal immigrant cant be a decent decorator?

How racist is that? ;)

Seriously though, I wonder how many Eastern Europeans are already on detailing world and already up to speed and quality and likely hard at work plying their trade.

As I say, it isnt rocket science and the more detailers there are out there, the steeper the competition and the more realistic the prices will become.
 
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Old Skool said:
Hi,

Anyone that can do this with halfords products plus lack of experience and know how I would be very surprised :-

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And for those who say eastern europeans do a good job then i pity your vehicles paintwork.

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Oh dear - any fool can sand the left hand side of their bonnet. Halfords do a great range of 80 grade emery cloth don't you know!

(Please note this is meant as a joke - the outputs that you detailers produce are often stunning:bannana:)
 
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