Adblue delete for good no more errors

[pcthrillrider]

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[ALFAitalia]

No more errors, no Adblue, no breadowns.........but.....no insurance, no legality to be on the road, no avoiding the £1000 fine if you get caught!!

 

[ToeKnee]

Error

 

[Gnasher141]

No more errors, no Adblue, no breadowns.........but.....no insurance, no legality to be on the road, no avoiding the £1000 fine if you get caught!!

Realistically what are chances of getting caught?

Question to forum- Has anyone ever been caught, if so, who by? And what penalty?

 

[ALFAitalia]

Probably not....but I've not been caught speeding since 1989....does that make it right and worth the risk? Its up to the individual at the end of the day, but not something I personally would do. Could also cause issues with Mercedes "goodwill" when outside of warranty. I just said it to make folks aware that deleting/modifying any factory fitted emission control equipment is "technically" a problem on a road going car......but yes, most probably know that already.

 

[W1ghty]

There’s going to be a lot more it during these cost of living pressures , especially when the “fix at MB “ is hugely expensive and not going to see the car out .

 

[markjay]

I don't think anyone will be 'caught', not presently, but then if this becomes commonplace them the DVSA might wisen-up to it and add some relevant checks to the MOT test.

However, it's Catch 22 with the insurer... not sure they'll be happy with this mod if it is declared, and if it isn't then it's an open door for them to invalidate the cover if it ever comes to light due to a serious accident.

Personally, I would just get rid of any Diesel car that has the AdBlue system, whether disabled or not.

 

[E55BOF]

Realistically what are chances of getting caught?

Question to forum- Has anyone ever been caught, if so, who by? And what penalty?

Beat me to it, but same story. I'd be more worried about the consequences of an accident; if an insurance assessor spotted it, the other party would be covered, but own damage wouldn't. Never say never...

 

[JHS]

Two genuine questions:
a. Has anyone been caught and prosecuted?
b. Has anyone had their insurance invalidated?

 

[Gnasher141]

Same

 

[markjay]

It's essentially the same as fitting illegal lights etc - the chances of getting caught are slim, and the sellers cover themselves in the small print.

See for example from this site advertising AdBlue delete:

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" - IS ADBLUE REMOVAL LEGAL IN THE UK?
Modifying your vehicle isn’t illegal. However, AdBlue delete services are intended for off-road use only. Driving your car without AdBlue on a public road is illegal and could result in prosecution."

As I said, personally, I would just get rid of the car. I sleep better at night this way.

 

[poormansporsche]

, personally, I would just get rid of the car. I sleep better at night this way.

And the 50000 small businesses and van drivers having it forced on them by Khan ? My financed van already having ad blue issues at 20k, and I'm far from alone

 

[markjay]

And the 50000 small businesses and van drivers having it forced on them by Khan ? My financed van already having ad blue issues at 20k, and I'm far from alone

If you have a Diesel van and have to drive through ULEZ, then yes, I agree, this isn't a good scenario for you, to say the least.

But for the many who drive private cars... buy smaller-engined Diesel cars without AdBlue, or buy petrol cars, would be my advice.

 

[Tonygw]

For somebody who has never owned a diesel car with Ad blue? what are the issues owners face?

As I thought it was just a system adding drops of ammonia in the exhaust gas to reduce Nox and make the exhaust gases so clean squirrels and Greta Thunberg would nest in the exhaust back box of any car with it fitted?? or is there more to it than that?

 

[Smart320]

It’s the technology/ equipment that does it that’s the problem- massive extra complexity, it invariably goes wrong and cannot be repaired ( or no easy option to do so ) so it costs to replace the system ( eg new Ad- Blue tank etc )

 

[Slartibartfast]

For somebody who has never owned a diesel car with Ad blue? what are the issues owners face?

As I thought it was just a system adding drops of ammonia in the exhaust gas to reduce Nox and make the exhaust gases so clean squirrels and Greta Thunberg would nest in the exhaust back box of any car with it fitted?? or is there more to it than that?

Issues include faulty Nox sensors upstream and downstream, around £600 for each. When 1 goes, the other normally follows quite soon after. Adblue heater can fail and cost is around £1,200 to replace tank. Adblue control unit around £500 to replace. The system can also get blocked up by the Adblue crystallising.

 

[poormansporsche]

But for the many who drive private cars... buy smaller-engined Diesel cars without AdBlue, or buy petrol cars, would be my advice.

We replaced the wife's euro 6 diesel with a petrol turbo nutter BEFORE the problems started

If you have a Diesel van and have to drive through ULEZ, then yes, I agree, this isn't a good scenario for you, to say the least.

Every single one of my van driver friends have stretched themselves financially to replace D.I.Y fixable euro 4/5 vans for complex expensive euro 6s , none of them could afford a new one with warranty. All of them are now looking at the delete. One of my friends puts nearly as much ad blue in as diesel in his Transit Custom !

It's was inevitable that my van would have problems with crystallisation as it was pre registered and sat in a field with 5 miles on the clock for 18 months. Just a shame the problems started 3 months after the warranty ran out.

I will post more once "Dave" gets it done .......

 

[markjay]

Issues include faulty Nox sensors upstream and downstream, around £600 for each. When 1 goes, the other normally follows quite soon after. Adblue heater can fail and cost is around £1,200 to replace tank. Adblue control unit around £500 to replace. The system can also get blocked up by the Adblue crystallising.

That's assuming that the fault with the AdBlue system can actually be diagnosed...... a fault can remain a mystery even after replacing all of the above, meaning MOT failure due to EML.

 

[markjay]

I will post more once "Dave" gets it done .......

Looks like he did... and went electric:

 

[mercmancdi]

I got nox sensors mapped out of one of the last glc 220 I had as mb had 6 mth waiting list on parts and the cost was scary. The guy mapped it out no more adblu car ran great with mpg slightly increased. I would do it again no problem but hard to get it mapped now as guy only done it as parts were not available at the time. Also mb told me to drive away at it while waiting on parts it would do no harm. Not sure this would have been true. Hence mapped out.