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can anybody interpret this printout, what concerns me is the heading " without sports suspension" when my car has sports suspension and the fact that the steering wheel is still cocked over to the right slightly, can anything else cause this ?
thanks in advance
 

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more printout

sorry for quality, best i can do
 

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No idea what it means but has the handling improved at all?
 
Had my W209 tracking checked recently following new rear tyres. Tracking was out (4 degrees) and was corrected. Must admit though my steering wheel not exactly "true" on straight roads.
Independent re-check at other credible garage agrees that tracking though is now bang on?
I suspect the steering wheel being off centre may be something of a cosmetic characteristic.
 
You need it redone as the sports suspension makes the car sit lower so caster, camber and possibly toe will be different.

Just go back.
 
the only thing is the steering wheel is slightly cocked over to the right and it bugs me

Sounds like both the track road ends need equally and oppositely adjusting.

You need it redone as the sports suspension makes the car sit lower so caster, camber and possibly toe will be different.

This is an area which I'm very interested in and that I'd like to understand more about.
Through total suspension travel (with the springs removed) will the caster, camber and toe change?
If they change too much, is this what causes bump steer?

I hope wheels-inMotion joins to shed some light.
 
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I would not get too hung up about the lower sport suspension.

The geometry settings are a compromise to some extent because the vehicle movement along a road is a dynamic thing, and the camber for example will be constantly changing anyway.

And the settings will be different when the car is loaded to when the car just has a driver in it.

So you may have the car set up as normal, but when you load it to the max all those carefully set geonmetric angles will now be totally out, as the car will be sitting much lower with 4 passengers and their luggage in boot.

And if you are going to drive a 3000 or 4000 miles around Europe the tyres will wear more than average.

So, ideally you should set up your car geometry angles for how you will use the car, ie do you travel with lots of heavy samples in the boot as a representative for example.
 
>>Through total suspension travel (with the springs removed) will the caster, camber and toe change?

Yes, significantly.

When the alignment was done, was the steering wheel locked in the straight ahead position?
 
Despite the incorrect vehicle identity there's nothing suspicious about the calibration positions.... I honestly feel the steering brace was incorrectly placed during the calibration hence the current position.

It's an innocent mistake and i'm sure they would welcome you back in order to dissolve the complaint.
 
thanks for looking, I'm taking it back for another attempt
 
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re-realignment

been back today. tech was a bit miffed that I wasn't happy cos he reckoned his "Hunter" alignment rig was the best money could buy [20 grands worth he said] and we went out for a test drive before he put it back on the ramp. I got the impression he thought I was a bit picky but he aligned it again for me and its much better now, anyway he was happy that I was happy with it so all in all, good job.:D
 

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Hunter alignment System

The fellow you visited was right about the Hunter alignment system. It costs a fortune. Properly used, it is the OEM service system of choice for both BMW and Mercedes Dealers. However as with all sophisticated suspension measurement systems, it requires the technician to meticulously follow the set up for each vehicle whch will differ widely by manufacturer and model.He (or she ) must be properly trained and familiar with both the system and the vehicle to which alighment is necessary.

Both Merc and Bmw spec. custom filled water bottle weights by model to be inserted into the passanger footwells to arrive at an average vehicle loading before any settings are adjusted.It should take about two hours to set up a car properly if adjustments are required as changing one setting will mean changing many others.

The idea of driving into a multi chain tyre garage and being told your wheels are out of alignment and it will take 2 seconds and cost twenty quid is a false economy given the costs of fuel and tyres that a four wheel alignment will save over a couple of years. Noise and vibration over 85mph will also be considerably reduced for those of you driving in Germany because it is at these higher speeds that Mercs were originally designed for where four wheel alignment is critical. The good news is that whilst a main dealer will try to charge £285 or so , a private with the Hunter equipment and automatic access to manufacturer software set up discs will charge about £125 or so.Try a Merc approved Body shop perhaps.

Blueanybear
 
The fellow you visited was right about the Hunter alignment system. It costs a fortune. Properly used, it is the OEM service system of choice for both BMW and Mercedes Dealers. However as with all sophisticated suspension measurement systems, it requires the technician to meticulously follow the set up for each vehicle whch will differ widely by manufacturer and model.He (or she ) must be properly trained and familiar with both the system and the vehicle to which alighment is necessary.

Both Merc and Bmw spec. custom filled water bottle weights by model to be inserted into the passanger footwells to arrive at an average vehicle loading before any settings are adjusted.It should take about two hours to set up a car properly if adjustments are required as changing one setting will mean changing many others.

The idea of driving into a multi chain tyre garage and being told your wheels are out of alignment and it will take 2 seconds and cost twenty quid is a false economy given the costs of fuel and tyres that a four wheel alignment will save over a couple of years. Noise and vibration over 85mph will also be considerably reduced for those of you driving in Germany because it is at these higher speeds that Mercs were originally designed for where four wheel alignment is critical. The good news is that whilst a main dealer will try to charge £285 or so , a private with the Hunter equipment and automatic access to manufacturer software set up discs will charge about £125 or so.Try a Merc approved Body shop perhaps.

Blueanybear

Well said....
 
Merc use the Beisbath alignment equipment

And very good it would appear to be too. Mine was aligned at about 50k miles, and the tyre wear is very even, although it does have that "pull to the left" that Mercs seem to have as a characteristic.
 

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