Auto 722.6 transmission sticking

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Redcarrick

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Help needed with ideas about a fault with auto transmission, sticking in gear.

I have a 2007 MB Viano CDi 2.2 with automatic transmission, and 140,000 genuine miles. I bought the vehicle as a non-runner following frontal crash damage, and I've now completed all of the repairs, which I have done myself. As part of the repairs I have replaced the radiator with transmission cooler (genuine new MB). I have serviced the transmission. I have replaced the transmission fluid, transmission filter, electrical connection and sump gasket. Everything was purchased from my local MB dealership. I have also purchased the MB transmission dipstick. Because the vehicle took frontal damage, unfortunately the Traction Control Unit (TCU) was damaged. I replaced this with a used one, same part number, same hardwear number and same software number. I have researched changing the transmission oil on Youtube, and followed the processes. I have filled the transmission oil to the +/- 25 degree as a approximate. I have still not achieved the +/- 80 degree temperature to get a definitive level, but I believe I am close. When I cleaned out the oil sump, there were no chunks or odd debris. The magnet had very fine material and what looked like general clutch wear material. After studying Youtube I was not alarmed by what I cleaned out of the oil sump.

My initial 2 weeks of use of the vehicle were flawless. Unfortunately, I am now getting regular problems. The transmission is smooth from start up, and then its a lottery as to when the fault happens. It could be 5 minutes, it could be 30 minutes. The transmission sticks in 2nd gear. It won't change up and it won't change down. It won't change if you use the manual shifter or automatic, it stays stuck. If you pull over, and select park and turn the engine off and give it 10 seconds. It comes back to life with no fault, then it's a lottery again when it will stick in 2nd gear again. When it happens, when you go from Drive to Park, it's a very violent shift, the vehicle makes a clunking noise. But once you restart it after 10 seconds its smooth again.

So my reasoning so far. I've changed the TCU, but I've been told because its like for like and its old (2007) that it won't need coding to my vehicle, so I think that's OK. I've serviced the transmission with genuine MB parts and oil, so I think that's OK. I'm just about there with the transmission oil level, still waiting to get to 80 degrees to make a definitive measure, could this be an issue? I've researched on the internet and the most common faults with the 722.6 transmission they seem to be the electric plug and the conductor plate. It sounds a pretty robust transmission fitted to many vehicles.

To progress from here. I've enquired with my local MD dealership and been quoted a hours diagnostic labour at £138 inclusive. I've also enquired with my local MB dealer about a new conductor plate, and been quoted £204 Inclusive. Only £64 difference between diagnostic and a new conductor plate, obviously having the diagnostic done and being told it's the conductor plate is the most expensive option at £342. I'd rather fix the problem by spending the least amount of money, that's the fun. I shall change the conductor plate myself, lots of good guidance on Youtube.

So, please, I'd be grateful for peoples two cents worth. Has anyone had the same problem? Does anyone have suggestions? Am I missing something obvious. Where should I go from here?

Thanks
 
Have you checked for fault codes ? (Edit just seen not ,)
what about buying an icarsoft MB2 for the same price as MB charge for the diagnostics?

I wouldn’t jump straight for conductor plate first , check the electrical connection (£12) on the gearbox for oil first , it can let oil wick along the wiring to the gearbox ecu
 
Have you checked the gearbox atf level when the oil is hot , engine running , gearbox in P , on a level surface ?
 
Have you checked the gearbox atf level when the oil is hot , engine running , gearbox in P , on a level surface ?
Hi thanks for reply.

Yes, I have followed the correct checking procedure. I still have not got the oil to temperature, when I check the oil temperature using my heat gun, the highest I've had is about 55 degrees. Which is lower than the 80 degree measurement level. When checking in park, with the engine running after idling for 2 minutes, the level on the dipstick is halfway between the 25 and 80 degree levels. Not ideal, I can only think it's not up to temperature yet. I plan to keep checking with the warm weather to see if I get to 80 degrees.

I have not explored diagnostic with an independent yet.

I will not jump at a conductor plate yet, still after other people's experience.
 
Hi thanks for reply.

Yes, I have followed the correct checking procedure. I still have not got the oil to temperature, when I check the oil temperature using my heat gun, the highest I've had is about 55 degrees. Which is lower than the 80 degree measurement level. When checking in park, with the engine running after idling for 2 minutes, the level on the dipstick is halfway between the 25 and 80 degree levels. Not ideal, I can only think it's not up to temperature yet. I plan to keep checking with the warm weather to see if I get to 80 degrees.

I have not explored diagnostic with an independent yet.

I will not jump at a conductor plate yet, still after other people's experience.
I would get the level correct at 80 first , gearboxes are sensitive to low fluid .
 
It does sound like a speed sensor fault, but you’ll need a code read before anything else. Fluid level is unlikely to be the problem. If it’s between the lower marks when cold it may still need some fine adjustment when hot, but it won’t be much. Codes read next before anything else
 
It does sound like a speed sensor fault, but you’ll need a code read before anything else. Fluid level is unlikely to be the problem. If it’s between the lower marks when cold it may still need some fine adjustment when hot, but it won’t be much. Codes read next before anything else
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Well, it happened. My intermittent sticking in 2nd gear, turn it off & restart all fine, problem has gone away. Unfortunately, I am now stuck permanently in second gear. I have P, R, N & D, but D is stuck in 2nd gear. On changing from P, R, N and D I have a quite violent shudder and thud as it engages. Not good at all.

This happened Friday, I finally managed to get the transmission oil temp up to 80 degrees, it was a sunny day and I'd driven for about 40 minutes. I added 150ml of transmission fluid and I got the level to halfway between the upper and lower marks on the 80 degree section of the dipstick. I was happy with that, it was a niggle to me thinking that might have been the cause. I finished my journey and parked up. It drove OK for the next 10 minute journey. I stopped for something to eat, about 30 minutes and then the fun started. A violent change through P, R, N to D and then stuck in 2nd gear. No matter how many times I stopped and restarted or tried to manually change, no luck, stuck in 2nd.

My max speed was about 25 mph, about 2500 RPM, I limped the vehicle about 30-40 minutes to my work location, and got a lift home. I left the vehicle overnight. Saturday morning went to the vehicle, same problem. I tried all the obvious things (obvious to me) to try. I removed 200ml of transmission fluid back out (more than I had added the day before) no change. I removed the battery, fault reset? No change. I removed the Traction Control Unit, and refitted. No change. I removed the electrical connection plug on the sump, no change. I drained all the transmission fluid and oil pan and oil filter. I checked for debris or something obvious, nothing obvious. I refitted everything using the same oil (its only done 400 miles since being added), no change.

So still a violent change and thud from P, R, N & D, and still stuck in 2nd gear in D.

My next move is to get it to either a MB specialist or MB for diagnostic work.

My question, has anybody had the same or similar. What was the fault, what was the fix. Any help appreciated, thanks.
 
Sounding more and more like a speed sensor fault on the electroplate. A read of the fault codes will confirm it
 
Go to 14:45 minutes (although all of the MB content Alex does is worth a watch) Have a look if this might be an option for you. He has other older content on this very same transmission , worth a search.

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