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Sp!ke
Administrator
So what are your overall impressions of Andy Gayle's workshop?
Price/quality/facilities etc?
Would you recommend him to others or is it too early to tell?
Price/quality/facilities etc?
Would you recommend him to others or is it too early to tell?
GregE240
Active Member
Re: Re: Leaving a Smokescreen.....
Money off next service I think, Nick - it was late, I was knackered, just wanted to get on my way, you know what its like.
Chuffed he was still open though, even when I pulled in there it was chuffing oil everywhere, and I took it easy(ish)
LOL!!!
Money off next service I think, Nick - it was late, I was knackered, just wanted to get on my way, you know what its like.
Chuffed he was still open though, even when I pulled in there it was chuffing oil everywhere, and I took it easy(ish)
GregE240
Active Member
Well Spike, I've written my impressions in another thread within the Specialists section. I think he is very good, and not at any time do you think Andy is shafting you. The price he quotes is the price you pay, and the quality of workmanship is excellent (extra tranny oil notwithstanding!)
His garage is very much a working garage, its pretty tidy but theres stuff everywhere.
Recommended without hesitation.
jimmy
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Sorry, I know mistakes happen but I think this sort of service is totally unacceptable. Who knows what sort of damage could or has been done by overfilling your gearbox? Not to mention the fire risk that Shude mentioned and what if the fluid had gotten onto your brakes??
I'm not having a go at this garage in particular but it amazes me what happens in these garages, I'm in the trade and I see alot of things...........thats why I will be servicing my own car whenever I can. At least I know the job has been done and has been done properly.
I'm not having a go at this garage in particular but it amazes me what happens in these garages, I'm in the trade and I see alot of things...........thats why I will be servicing my own car whenever I can. At least I know the job has been done and has been done properly.
jimmy
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Sorry, what do you mean?
GregE240
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OK, a few points to answer here:
Was it a fire risk? No - there was no fire.
Is the service unacceptable - again, no. I drove the car back, and had it sorted out. Yes, I accept that it should never have been overfilled in the first place, but it was sorted immediately. I douby phoning a dealership at 18:30pm would have gotten me anywhere.
Has any damage been done whilst driving the gearbox overfilled? Who knows? Only time will tell. If it goes ban in a few weeks, I'll know why.
What if the fluid had got on my brakes? Sorry boys, but there's a hell of a lot of "what if's" here. What ifs haven't happened. What if the copper had nicked me for dangerous driving? Speeding? Whatever? I'd be more cheesed off than I am now.
As far as I can see it now, a mistake was made. It has been rectified to my satisfaction. I will be compensated in the future. To the best of my knowledge, no lasting damage was done.
Jimmy, if you're in the service trade then perhaps I'll give you a try in the future mate because I'm pig sick of M-B dealer attitude and bulls***. But overfill my gearbox and I'll sue you
Was it a fire risk? No - there was no fire.
Is the service unacceptable - again, no. I drove the car back, and had it sorted out. Yes, I accept that it should never have been overfilled in the first place, but it was sorted immediately. I douby phoning a dealership at 18:30pm would have gotten me anywhere.
Has any damage been done whilst driving the gearbox overfilled? Who knows? Only time will tell. If it goes ban in a few weeks, I'll know why.
What if the fluid had got on my brakes? Sorry boys, but there's a hell of a lot of "what if's" here. What ifs haven't happened. What if the copper had nicked me for dangerous driving? Speeding? Whatever? I'd be more cheesed off than I am now.
As far as I can see it now, a mistake was made. It has been rectified to my satisfaction. I will be compensated in the future. To the best of my knowledge, no lasting damage was done.
Jimmy, if you're in the service trade then perhaps I'll give you a try in the future mate because I'm pig sick of M-B dealer attitude and bulls***. But overfill my gearbox and I'll sue you
Steve_Perry
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I don't think auto tranny oil is a fire risk, the stuff isn't flamable like petrol or other types of oil.
As for overfilling the gearbox, they are very sensitive beasts and if driven overfilled for a long period of time then I think damage would occur. For the short distance that Greg drove I doubt there would be any lasting effects. Wouldn't the gearbox ECU have switched into 'emergency limp home mode' i.e. stuck in 2nd gear if something was drastically amiss?
Greg, as you say, at least you got it sorted immediately to your satisfaction :bannana: and Hurah for the BiB
Sorry... just my two penneth
S.
As for overfilling the gearbox, they are very sensitive beasts and if driven overfilled for a long period of time then I think damage would occur. For the short distance that Greg drove I doubt there would be any lasting effects. Wouldn't the gearbox ECU have switched into 'emergency limp home mode' i.e. stuck in 2nd gear if something was drastically amiss?
Greg, as you say, at least you got it sorted immediately to your satisfaction :bannana: and Hurah for the BiB
Sorry... just my two penneth
S.
sym
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Sounds like you just had some bad luck Greg . . . . you would expect a "specialist" to know what they were doing though. Doubt they would still be in business or have any kind of reputation if they made frequent mistakes like that.
I won't harp on with more "What If-s", as it turned out to be a happy ending, as you say.
Fancy showing off your dimming rear view mirror to a police officer . . I wouldn't dream of doing such a thing !!
"Sorry,- but the high beam headllights dazzling me in my mirror caused it to automatically darken in a fraction of a second, and obscured your flashing blue lights - hence I didn't stop" . . . . wonder if it'd stand up in court
S.
I won't harp on with more "What If-s", as it turned out to be a happy ending, as you say.
Fancy showing off your dimming rear view mirror to a police officer . . I wouldn't dream of doing such a thing !!
"Sorry,- but the high beam headllights dazzling me in my mirror caused it to automatically darken in a fraction of a second, and obscured your flashing blue lights - hence I didn't stop" . . . . wonder if it'd stand up in court
S.
jimmy
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Originally posted by GregE240
Jimmy, if you're in the service trade then perhaps I'll give you a try in the future mate because I'm pig sick of M-B dealer attitude and bulls***. But overfill my gearbox and I'll sue you
I dont service lots of cars myself only friends and relatives, but I have a friend who is a top mechanic and he and myself are the only ones I would want working on my own car.
I just meant that in my line of business I visit alot of garages, most are OK but some really frighten me, I wouldnt want some of them to service my wheelbarrow!!
Steve_Perry
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LOL
Fantastic phrase, I'll have to remember that one
S.
Dieselman
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Just read the thread.
Take one gold star away from Andys cap badge. Easy mistake but shouldn't really happen.
Your gearbox will be ok because there is a float which stops any overfill of oil entering the gearbox its-self. The oil pan is just a sump.
Heard of a local dealer employee using the vacuum unit to drain the engine oil and it not working. He refilled the engine with new oil (about 7 litres), and tested the car.
When the owner collected the car and took it on the motorway to go home it blew oil everwhere. Car recovered and checked. 14 litres of oil in the engine. It was deffinately full!
Take one gold star away from Andys cap badge. Easy mistake but shouldn't really happen.
Your gearbox will be ok because there is a float which stops any overfill of oil entering the gearbox its-self. The oil pan is just a sump.
Heard of a local dealer employee using the vacuum unit to drain the engine oil and it not working. He refilled the engine with new oil (about 7 litres), and tested the car.
When the owner collected the car and took it on the motorway to go home it blew oil everwhere. Car recovered and checked. 14 litres of oil in the engine. It was deffinately full!
