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Some great info and advice, thank you.
I could be interested in remote start, also proximity sensors. I'll take a look at the Smart Pro and see what it has to offer.

I'm not sure I'll be doing a 500 mile, 10 1/2 hour round trip to London though ;)


I believe they have installers dotted around the country, worth contacting them for a chat.

The system comes with impact, motion and tilt sensors as standard 👍
 
No need for a tracker if they can't actually take it.

Useful if its car jacked or you are made to override it for the villain though.
Exactly my thoughts and also if it was towed or put on a flat bed. I understand either of these situations are not very likely, but it’s another bit of peace of mind.
I’ll have to access if a tracker is worth it to me and if it reduces insurance premium any.
 
No, I was asking a question . . .

Can't think of anything else that's made in Russia . . .
Google says manufactured in Western Russia. Kaluga to be exact.
Dealing with Russia wouldn't be my first choice, but if Pandora are the best, I'd buy it.
 
Can't see the point of the remote start option....warming up your car by leaving it idling is not at all good for it.....or any modern engine. And of course they are not legal to be used in any public space....just your drive.
Yeah, but it would be cool…………and that’s good enough for the teenager within most of us petrol heads.
 
No, I was asking a question . . .

Can't think of anything else that's made in Russia . . .
As Roger says, Kaluga, western Russia.

Lada’s.
 
I've had ghosts on 3 AMGs now , the competency of the fitter is important. One fitter used the door switches. I changed it using the card to steering wheel buttons myself. The other two were set with steering wheel buttons. One insurance company wanted a Thatcham tracker fitted as the car was a >gbp80k model and the fitter advised me to save my money and get a CAT 6 rather than 5. I got a ghost for my piece of mind in addition.

Things have since moved on and I haven't bought a new car in around 3 years so haven't done a side by side comparison of the Pandora offering vs the ghost. Would be interested in more information regarding how they work especially if i get a s213. Web search incoming...
 
Remote start might not be available on certain models but worth checking directly with Pandora. On my 2014 E63 W212, it wasnt available at the time of installation, however the software was available for 2009-2011 E63 W212.

My installer told me that i could go back anytime to have the system updated as soon as remote start became available for my model. I personally would like to have this feature, as I often travel to work and would appreciate not having to lose time for engine to warm up before I could drive off. Even to have a 3 minute engine warm-up head start is good for the engine before you make off.

A warm engine also helps demist the front windscreen a bit faster during those cold frosty mornings. I had remote start in my previous car, found it very useful 🙂
 
I've had ghosts on 3 AMGs now , the competency of the fitter is important. One fitter used the door switches. I changed it using the card to steering wheel buttons myself. The other two were set with steering wheel buttons. One insurance company wanted a Thatcham tracker fitted as the car was a >gbp80k model and the fitter advised me to save my money and get a CAT 6 rather than 5. I got a ghost for my piece of mind in addition.

Things have since moved on and I haven't bought a new car in around 3 years so haven't done a side by side comparison of the Pandora offering vs the ghost. Would be interested in more information regarding how they work especially if i get a s213. Web search incoming...

Prices appear to be coming down 😉👍
 
I've had ghosts on 3 AMGs now , the competency of the fitter is important. One fitter used the door switches. I changed it using the card to steering wheel buttons myself. The other two were set with steering wheel buttons. One insurance company wanted a Thatcham tracker fitted as the car was a >gbp80k model and the fitter advised me to save my money and get a CAT 6 rather than 5. I got a ghost for my piece of mind in addition.

Things have since moved on and I haven't bought a new car in around 3 years so haven't done a side by side comparison of the Pandora offering vs the ghost. Would be interested in more information regarding how they work especially if i get a s213. Web search incoming...

Yes, research on the company who perform the install is as important as researching the system itself.
I'm backwards and forwards regarding the 2 systems. Ghost is easy, you get what you get, but Pandora have a few different options so it's somewhat harder to decide.
 
Remote start might not be available on certain models but worth checking directly with Pandora. On my 2014 E63 W212, it wasnt available at the time of installation, however the software was available for 2009-2011 E63 W212.

My installer told me that i could go back anytime to have the system updated as soon as remote start became available for my model. I personally would like to have this feature, as I often travel to work and would appreciate not having to lose time for engine to warm up before I could drive off. Even to have a 3 minute engine warm-up head start is good for the engine before you make off.

A warm engine also helps demist the front windscreen a bit faster during those cold frosty mornings. I had remote start in my previous car, found it very useful 🙂

I thought I wanted remote start until I came upon the additional £400 price tag. I had to asked myself if I could justify the cost (on top of the £700-£1,350 system cost) for what would probably only be used a few times.
 
I'll drop these links here in case anyone is interested.

Pandora alarm comparison chart
https://pandorainfo.co.uk/pages/comparison

An examples of current Pandora prices
https://carspecialistcustoms.co.uk/product-category/pandora/

Pandora alarm info
https://www.pandoracaralarms.co.uk/




Autowatch Ghost II info
https://www.autowatch.co.uk/

Autowatch Ghost II prices
https://autowatch-ghost.co.uk/autowatch-ghost-online-shop/



I'm in no way connected, nor am I recommending any of these sites or installers, I merely giving links to information.
 
Even to have a 3 minute engine warm-up head start is good for the engine before you make off.
No its not.....quite the opposite in fact.....just start it, put your seatbelt on and and drive it gently is the best way to get your engine and cat warmer faster......idling for 30 seconds tops. Idling from stone cold is pretty harmful for a modern engine and manufacturers no longer recommend it.

 
No its not.....quite the opposite in fact.....just start it, put your seatbelt on and and drive it gently is the best way to get your engine and cat warmer faster......idling for 30 seconds tops. Idling from stone cold is pretty harmful for a modern engine and manufacturers no longer recommend it.


True dat. It's a popular misconception. Without revs the cold, thick oil struggles to get to the top of the engine for starters.
 

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