Brake Hold Function! Hidden Options!

[Thrash]

I noticed when test driving a Golf GTD it would automatically 'HOLD' (they had their own name for it) but I'm pretty sure it essentially held the brake on as soon as you stopped until you started moving again - so the same as our HOLD function but it applied it automatically.

It was one thing I missed when I had my BMW actually, salesman told me it was only available on a 7 Series because that's the only one with an electronic handbrake.

 

[Londonscottish]

I had SBC Hold on my 211 and have the newer version on my 212. I've never had any problems.

But I did warp the discs on my first C43 after an ....ahem....spirited drive to work in my first C43. I made some interesting progress along the final stretch of dual carriageway and them stood it on its nose for the final red light/roundabout. Stayed on the brakes and warped them slightly. Lesson learned.

 

[PenelopePitstop]

Hold function is pretty useful in traffic, also if you use start/stop, engine will stay off. I knew about it since I got my first SLK with it.

In VAG you can use automatic Hold as mentioned earlier, but unfortunately it doesn't work together with start/stop. As soon as you take off your foot from the brake, engine will start.

 

[b1g1an]

Stop function is available only on cars equipped with SBC.

...and only the earliest ones of those, had gone by the time the CLS was released. MB probably had too many claims from people who thought they'd put it on and then run into the back of someone.

 

[modelman093]

In another world, SBC stood for Sheer Bloody Carelessness. Just about sums up that feature.

 

[Joderest]

I only discovered by accident that i cannot use side lights below a certain light level, defaults to dip beam

 

[SW18]

Thanks All for the useful discussion of the brake hold function - I’d read about it before but thought I didn’t but have it as I couldn’t get it to work. Today I had another go and discovered I do have it! Very handy for local driving.

Having used it 2 or 3 times I’m still not sure how it operates: is it one firm press, a double-tap, or is it activated by one very fast press of the pedal? Anyway, trying a combination of these made it work.

 

[SW18]

In VAG you can use automatic Hold as mentioned earlier, but unfortunately it doesn't work together with start/stop. As soon as you take off your foot from the brake, engine will start.

Some VWs do keep the engine off when releasing the brake, maybe this was introduced with newer models. I used to drive a Golf MK7 quite a lot and that kept the engine off after releasing the brake, so long as the Auto Hold button next to the handbrake was set to on. I seem to recall that the brake warning symbol on the dashboard would turn green to indicate that the car was on auto hold with engine off.

I also found that if the stopped traffic looked like it was going to be momentary and you wanted to keep the engine on, you could brake to a halt and then release the brake quickly, before stop-start kicked in and killed the engine, and it would then keep the engine on. I got used to the system and could make it do what I wanted given the situation.

 

[Quackers]

Why would the HOLD function cause brake judder? What’s the difference between the HOLD function and you holding the brake with your foot?

I wouldn't imagine there is any difference between the two.
I think the general consensus with this is that when the discs are very hot and you then hold the pads against the disc it can leave a pad imprint on the disc. These imprints can subsequently cause brake judder as they are actually slightly raised points on the disc surface.
I think it's quite important that the discs need to be very hot before a pad imprint occurs which might be the reason not everyone suffers from it.

I saw a quote about following advice about how to clean the discs - was that the zeckhausen site? That site does explain things a bit.

 

[flowrider]

I noticed when test driving a Golf GTD it would automatically 'HOLD' (they had their own name for it) but I'm pretty sure it essentially held the brake on as soon as you stopped until you started moving again - so the same as our HOLD function but it applied it automatically.

It was one thing I missed when I had my BMW actually, salesman told me it was only available on a 7 Series because that's the only one with an electronic handbrake.

Audi call it "Hill Hold Assist"

 

[MercedesDriver]

You just have to tap the brake pedal once while stationary and it will hold.

Having used it 2 or 3 times I’m still not sure how it operates: is it one firm press, a double-tap, or is it activated by one very fast press of the pedal? Anyway, trying a combination of these made it work.

 

[Gav78]

Thanks All for the useful discussion of the brake hold function - I’d read about it before but thought I didn’t but have it as I couldn’t get it to work. Today I had another go and discovered I do have it! Very handy for local driving.

Having used it 2 or 3 times I’m still not sure how it operates: is it one firm press, a double-tap, or is it activated by one very fast press of the pedal? Anyway, trying a combination of these made it work.

Yes, i wan't the only one!