Obviously being pleased that my paperwork is now good for another year, I did think about this. I do plan to take the car to a good specialist for a full service....
Buckled Wheel - will it pass MOT?
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Obviously being pleased that my paperwork is now good for another year, I did think about this. I do plan to take the car to a good specialist for a full service....
Skd884
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get a 2nd hand wheel from eBay or similar...not worth risking you or your family for the sake of £50
Bad news... Got a picture and a call from wheel straightener.
Apparently there WAS a crack there on the front side which he only noticed once took of the tyre and placed it on a straightening machine....
So now it is 65 for straightening and 50 for welding 115 in total.... Makes no sense given that second had wheels going for that price per pair and surely would be better to have a wheel that has not gomne through so extensive repairs.
So now will be sourcing second hand alloys of the style below:
Apparently there WAS a crack there on the front side which he only noticed once took of the tyre and placed it on a straightening machine....
So now it is 65 for straightening and 50 for welding 115 in total.... Makes no sense given that second had wheels going for that price per pair and surely would be better to have a wheel that has not gomne through so extensive repairs.
So now will be sourcing second hand alloys of the style below:
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I can’t see how Quik-fit could have done that amount of damage by simply removing and fitting a tyre. That damage looks like the result of a fairly heavy impact. The crack doesn’t show in your first photo so has happened post Kwik-fit, possibly the result of trying to straighten it? Your old tyre was probably ‘stuck’ to the rim and held air, after that seal was broken it couldn’t be remade.
Yes, not necessarily Kwik Fit is responsible for all the damage (or any of it), especially the crack... All I am saying that I can't believe my wheel had all this damage (including quite a massive crack on the front) before it went to Kwik Fit given that it was not loosing air at any noticeable (over long period of time) rate.
Kwik Fit pointed out damage (major buckle/deformation) that should have been perfectly observable prior to them removing the old tyre only after they removed it. And the new tyre was loosing pressure very badly after their work.
The wheel straightener pointed out the crack only after he removed the tire, in fact the picture he took is of the wheel on the straightening machine, but claimed it was there rather than caused by attempts to straighten.
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Perhaps a salutary lesson then in as much as next time don’t go to Kwik Fit.
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Fair enough, although your statements are a bit contradictory. I just can’t see how any blame can be attributed to Kwik-fit in this instance.
If we assume Kwik Fit are not responsible for any damage for the wheel, nevertheless they took a wheel with a tyre on that was not loosing any air in and on the way out there way a wheel/tyre that was loosing air badly. The deformation of the wheel could have easily been seen prior to removing the old tyre from it - so they would have been beyond reproach if they pointed out the deformity prior to removing the tyre and explained consequences correctly prior to proceeding to remove the old tyre. (I was standing there near my car all that time)
They pointed out the deformity only once they removed the wheel, and their advice was that there might be difficulty balancing it - not that it will be loosing air haphazardly.
If the damage was such that could only be reasonably seen after removing the tyre, say some very horrible corrosion inside, then again they would have been beyond reproach if they pointed that out only after removing the old tyre. But the buckling in question could have been easily seen prior to removing the tyre so if they proceeded to remove the tyre they are deemed to have accepted it would not be an issue.
Compare that to a plight of a car renter. Much more difficult to identify every scratch and every dent on a car you are about to rent, often at night in some airport after a long flight, than to spot such a major deformity on a wheel. Yet fail to identify some scratch and on return, chances are, you would be deemed to have caused it and would be charged a fortune for it (often much more than the true economic cost of that scratch). Then, if you are super-honest and super-righteous, you would have to declare it to your own car insurer who would, chances are, charge you even more for it over the next 3-5 years.
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OK it’s all Kwik-fit’s fault.
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Hi , I don't believe that alloy wheels are now not strong enough in the first place for UK roads with all the pot holes in them.
10 years ago the pothole problem caused issues but in 2022 the roads in certain areas of the UK are now dangerous.
I can remember that when alloy wheels first arrived for one wheel manufacture recommended that wheels had a finite life and had to be returned to be exchanged on safety grounds.
10 years ago the pothole problem caused issues but in 2022 the roads in certain areas of the UK are now dangerous.
I can remember that when alloy wheels first arrived for one wheel manufacture recommended that wheels had a finite life and had to be returned to be exchanged on safety grounds.
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Could be worse.... 
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Find Out Why The Bugatti Veyron’s Tires Cost $42,000 Per Set
The Veyron is still a very special supercar, but maintaining it is very expensive. The tires alone are a major chunk of change to replace.
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But in reality 12-15 year old corroded alloys often sell for just under half the price of a new ones... Would seem makes sense to buy a new one - but then chances are it will either not fit the next car or will have to be declared to insurers as non-OEM part....
With regard to Health and Safety there has been such an attack on it over the last 20-30 years (being blamed for cancelled school trips and the like) that it seems to have gone out of a window.
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The roads are shocking. Like a warzone
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Strange that obvious damage is only being noticed after the fact. That means that either the fitters/fixing are causing the damage, or aren’t looking at what they’re doing. Probably the latter, possibly the former.
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Damage like yours is pretty common, easily fixed and easily repaired and welded.
I had both my cars wheels repaired, one was welded and the other straightened.
My son has just had his newish focus wheel welded, the weld was very well done and they made a very good job.
The reason the tyre then went down is just corrosion where the bead is sealed, the tyre needs removing and the inside rim is polished with a fine wire brush, some fitters finish with rubber adhesive solution the help seal.
Your damage was probably done years ago, maybe a previous owner ?
I had both my cars wheels repaired, one was welded and the other straightened.
My son has just had his newish focus wheel welded, the weld was very well done and they made a very good job.
The reason the tyre then went down is just corrosion where the bead is sealed, the tyre needs removing and the inside rim is polished with a fine wire brush, some fitters finish with rubber adhesive solution the help seal.
Your damage was probably done years ago, maybe a previous owner ?
Petrol Pete
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The rubber 'goop' on a paintbrush is often applied on old rims having second hand tyres fitted There is a used tyre fitting place next to my mates workshop on an industrial estate , I have seen them using it .
Not something most of us would use I suppose , but it depends
Not something most of us would use I suppose , but it depends
BigJase88
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They all use it on wheels that are a bit leakyThe rubber 'goop' on a paintbrush is often applied on old rims having second hand tyres fitted There is a used tyre fitting place next to my mates workshop on an industrial estate , I have seen them using it .
Not something most of us would use I suppose , but it depends
