C180 Camshaft query

[kerbus]

Which is the Inlet camshaft, the one with bigger or smaller lobes and does it have a number. C180 W 202. 1994. (and where is the numbr stamped on the shaft). Thanks

 

[grober]

Its the one on your right as you look towards the rear of the car. [ the nearside in a RHD car] Twin camshafts inlet and exhaust are normally coded together code number is normally on the 3 cam bearing or the rear of the camshaft flange on older models [ this probably means you have to take it off to see it?]can't comment on the the 180 engine for definite but MB tend to keep things the same .

 

[kerbus]

camshaft query

Have them out of the motor, done up motor and mixed them up. What are the numbers on them. Is the inlet camshaft with big lobes or smaller lobes. Car is 1994 C180 W202. Stupid thing to do, moved car during rebuild and ho hum - mucked it up. Wont start, pops out the exhaust.

 

[kerbus]

camshaft query

Its the one on your right as you look towards the rear of the car. [ the nearside in a RHD car] Twin camshafts inlet and exhaust are normally coded together code number is normally on the 3 cam bearing or the rear of the camshaft flange on older models [ this probably means you have to take it off to see it?]can't comment on the the 180 engine for definite but MB tend to keep things the same .

I have some numbers off the camshafts. Do you have any way of identifying exhaust and intake if I give you the numbers.

 

[grober]

I have some numbers off the camshafts. Do you have any way of identifying exhaust and intake if I give you the numbers.

Post them up and we will see-do they start with 202?

 

[kerbus]

camshaft query

No: It is a 111 motor. The numbers I have are R111 051 17 01 and on the other R111 051 11 01. and there are other numbers but I think these are the ones identifying exhaust and intake. PLEASE HELP

 

[NISFAN]

Why not phone MB dealers, parts dept. and ask for descriptions on the numbers you have. They are surely marked inlet and exhaust on EPC

 

[grober]

No: It is a 111 motor. The numbers I have are R111 051 17 01 and on the other R111 051 11 01. and there are other numbers but I think these are the ones identifying exhaust and intake. PLEASE HELP

When I key in your chassis number [ posted on the other forum] and look at the parts diagram it comes up with
R111 050 1801 inlet
AND
R111 050 1901 exhaust

see for yourself çàï÷àñòè Mercedes: êîäû çàï÷àñòåé ìåðñåäåñ

HOWEVER the diagram depicts the inlet camshaft as having variable timing and I know for a fact that the early 180 twin cam engines in the UK had fixed timing. I am guessing your camshafts are for the fixed timing engine but unfortunately I am unable to locate any information regarding this engine. this is maybe one for the dealer.

unless

the camshafts are from a different 111 engine entirely - I did get one internet search hit on part no R1110511701 but it implied it was for a c 230 engine but I would not rely on that??

 

[kerbus]

Why not phone MB dealers, parts dept. and ask for descriptions on the numbers you have. They are surely marked inlet and exhaust on EPC

Thank you for your help. We have tried and found very UNHELPFUL MB DEALER IN VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA, SILVER STAR MOTORS, after we have bought parts from them!!!! Maybe they are not so clued up after all.
Thanks once again.

 

[kerbus]

camshaft query

When I key in your chassis number [ posted on the other forum] and look at the parts diagram it comes up with
R111 050 1801 inlet
AND
R111 050 1901 exhaust

see for yourself çàï÷àñòè Mercedes: êîäû çàï÷àñòåé ìåðñåäåñ

HOWEVER the diagram depicts the inlet camshaft as having variable timing and I know for a fact that the early 180 twin cam engines in the UK had fixed timing. I am guessing your camshafts are for the fixed timing engine but unfortunately I am unable to locate any information regarding this engine. this is maybe one for the dealer.

unless

the camshafts are from a different 111 engine entirely - I did get one internet search hit on part no R1110511701 but it implied it was for a c 230 engine but I would not rely on that??

Thanks for your help - will continue the search and post solution if ever. Lucky we have another car to use. Very unhelpful MB dealer in Victoria Australia, even after we bought parts from them.

 

[kerbus]

Camshaft query - solution

Have found out the larger lobe is the inlet camshaft. But car still wont start, popping out the exhaust - now think its the car trailer and to a MB mechanic. Thanks everyone.

 

[Ian B Walker]

Got your email, thanks. Make sure when you time the engine that it is done at 25 degrees btdc, not tdc otherwise it will misfire.