Celtic Tuning

[mymini007]

Celtic tuning

Has any one used them?

Quoted
"The 3.0 V6 CDI engines we can take from 224bhp up to 290bhp and from 376bft torque up to 463lbft torque

The cost of the remap is £295 all inclusive for which we travel to your location whether it is home or work place"

I am not sure, but doesn't this sort of thing need to be done on a rolling road?

 

[Lee C63]

It does not need to be done on a rolling road. However, its always best to get a before and after run so you know what real gains you get i.e. how do you know it is producing what they say it should.

 

[mymini007]

They cant put it on the rollers apparently, as it will kick down and give a false reading

 

[flango]

Does it not have dyno mode?

 

[ChrisA]

I used Celtic Tuning few years back for mine and the wife's cars:

Audi A8 3.0TDi 229bhp to 305bhp and 335lb - 425lb torque
Discovery3 TDV6 187bhp to 248bhp and 324lb to 422lb torque

A little above what they advertise but they were happy to do as not extreme. Removed DPF,s on both and speed limiter on the Audi (Disco didn't require it )

£545 all in :bannana:

Didn't go on the dyno as it was very plain to feel the difference on both vehicles
They do give you a before and after data sheet

 

[mymini007]

Does it not have dyno mode?

Does what not have a dyno mode? My car?

 

[JDMUK]

They cant put it on the rollers apparently, as it will kick down and give a false reading

The fact they are saying that would make me avoid like the plague! Stick it in manual and it won't kick down and also dyno mode to turn off traction and abs etc, if it wasn't possible to run on a dyno how do people like euro charged do it?! Sounds like they have no clue what they are talking about and I would spend a bit more going to someone like msl or euro charge and getting it done properly

 

[mymini007]

The fact they are saying that would make me avoid like the plague! Stick it in manual and it won't kick down and also dyno mode to turn off traction and abs etc, if it wasn't possible to run on a dyno how do people like euro charged do it?! Sounds like they have no clue what they are talking about and I would spend a bit more going to someone like msl or euro charge and getting it done properly

How do you engage dyno mode?

 

[flango]

Does what not have a dyno mode? My car?

Yep most MB's have them HERE, different car to yours but same option to go to dyno mode.

Now the question is would you let this company map your car when they did not even know it had a dyno mode.

If you want it doing right dynamic mapping on a Rolling Road or on the Road (preferred) is by far better than a static map and just uploading some parameters to our car that might be 98% right but not exactly how you want it, all my cars have been dynamically mapped on the road .

 

[mymini007]

Quote from the last email

We are more than happy to take a look and if we can we will Dyno the vehicle, we need to take a reading on the Dyno from 1500rpm to the redline and then select a neutral gear to calculate the run down losses.
We have managed to Dyno some auto’s in the past but very few and some do but don’t show the correct power output either standard or modified

 

[Alfie]

Celtic tuning

Has any one used them?

Quoted
"The 3.0 V6 CDI engines we can take from 224bhp up to 290bhp and from 376bft torque up to 463lbft torque

The cost of the remap is £295 all inclusive for which we travel to your location whether it is home or work place"

I am not sure, but doesn't this sort of thing need to be done on a rolling road?

Yes.

I used them for my A class. Outstanding results.

They do not need a rolling road. They have the maps already and can download/install them for you at your home/office/workplace.

 

[flango]

Quote from the last email

We are more than happy to take a look and if we can we will Dyno the vehicle, we need to take a reading on the Dyno from 1500rpm to the redline and then select a neutral gear to calculate the run down losses.
We have managed to Dyno some auto’s in the past but very few and some do but don’t show the correct power output either standard or modified

I wouldn't go anywhere near them with a statement like that We used to do loads of auto's never an issue, usually mapped them on road but did a power run before and after so the customer can see what they are getting. I'm pretty sure other tuners on here will say the same put the car in Dyno mode and its not an issue.

 

[mymini007]

This has annoyed me a bit, surely a company that "specialises" in this type of operation should know how to do it on the car they are quoting for?
Hopefully I have been conversing with a receptionist or something, I will pop in anyway on Saturday, and if its clear they have no clue I will be walking away :fail

 

[flango]

This has annoyed me a bit, surely a company that "specialises" in this type of operation should know how to do it on the car they are quoting for?

You would like to think so

 

[mymini007]

the opening for the first e-mail

Thank you for your enquiry with Celtic Tuning, leaders in Electronic Engine Enhancements.

With a global dealer network and full mobile operations in England and Wales, we pride ourselves on both the quality of our software and the delivery of our work. The benefit of choosing Celtic Tuning over the competition is quite simply that, unlike most others, we actually write & develop our own software in house giving us endless flexibility to provide the tuning solution that suits you.

All of our work is developed and tested on our state of the art dynamometer, the Dastek 750. With full monitoring facilities for all engine parameters, it enables us to provide the safest software upgrades for your vehicle without detriment to the longevity of your engine/drive train and all of which is fully MOT compliant for emissions testing.

 

[Pitts Pilot]

I've used them recently on my Volvo XC60.

205 BHP became a modest 245 BHP - a 20% rise, and it has transformed the car for the better!

That extra 20% has turned a sluggish 4x4 into something that could almost be called 'nippy'!

There is now enough driver satisfaction to make it fun to drive!

A close friend of mine had his Passat done, and again was delighted with the result.

IMHO they are a professional company that actually care about their customers.

Incidentally, in both cases they came to the house and did the remap there and then; then we went for a test drive to ensure ‘I was happy’ – all good customer service IMO.

Cheers,
Rob

 

[mymini007]

I've used them recently on my Volvo XC60.

205 BHP became a modest 245 BHP - a 20% rise, and it has transformed the car for the better!

That extra 20% has turned a sluggish 4x4 into something that could almost be called 'nippy'!

There is now enough driver satisfaction to make it fun to drive!

A close friend of mine had his Passat done, and again was delighted with the result.

IMHO they are a professional company that actually care about their customers.

Incidentally, in both cases they came to the house and did the remap there and then; then we went for a test drive to ensure ‘I was happy’ – all good customer service IMO.

Cheers,
Rob

Good to know, I will go down on saturday and see what they do/say

 

[def90cars]

All new cars are "mapped" at the supplier of the ecu and NEVER power tested on a rolling road.... just a standard map.
So from this why do you need to rolling road it unless you are after very specific results.
If it feels faster... to all intends and purposes it IS faster.

 

[flango]

All new cars are "mapped" at the supplier of the ecu and NEVER power tested on a rolling road.... just a standard map.
So from this why do you need to rolling road it unless you are after very specific results.
If it feels faster... to all intends and purposes it IS faster.

Is that not the reason why people remap cars as they all have a generic map loaded on them at ecu manufacture? Remap by just uploading a file to the ECU and you are just loading a more optimal map but its still generic as other cars will have the same map.

The only way to map for precise results is on a rolling road or out on the road with a driver and mapper with laptop connected to ECU so map changes can be made on the move this way you will truly optimise the parameters of the map and ultimately the performance of the car. I acknowledge this is not needed on the majority of cars but it is better than a static map and is how the motorsport teams map ecu's

 

[V12]

Quote from the last email

We are more than happy to take a look and if we can we will Dyno the vehicle, we need to take a reading on the Dyno from 1500rpm to the redline and then select a neutral gear to calculate the run down losses.
We have managed to Dyno some auto’s in the past but very few and some do but don’t show the correct power output either standard or modified

It just sounds like they're being honest. Lots of dynos are terrible at accurately measuring high power, auto mercs. Figures can vary wildly.