Coding?

[DSM10000]

I really don't want to come across as argumentative, especially as I'm very new here, but I've been on lots of car forums.
Gaining and passing on knowledge, and it seems work well, but there is always someone who joins in, and in my mind, they have a Kenith Williams Voice and always say "Ooh no, you can't do that"! Or, "Ooh no, you mustn't do that"!
It just doesn't bring anything to the Party. It's just unnecessary on any post.
Read and help, if you can. But If you can't, there's no need to join in.
On my posts anyway!
Glass half full and all that?

You seem to only want "help" when it is something that aligns with your views.

Some of your comments about informing your insurer if yuu replace a headlamp bulb are clearly not helpful

The comments you have received have been courteous and well intended.

Your replies less so.

 

[Mickyh7]

You seem to only want "help" when it is something that aligns with your views.

Some of your comments about informing your insurer if yuu replace a headlamp bulb are clearly not helpful

The comments you have received have been courteous and well intended.

Your replies less so.

Ironically, most aftermarket Headlight Bulbs are illegal to fit!
Would they be checked after an accident?
I'm afraid I can't be very helpful at the moment, because I have zero knowledge of Mercedes-Benz.
I'm guessing my post is just a touch 'risque' for mainstream?

 

[markjay]

Wow interesting discussion. Of course you can also change the coding accidentally in you fit a second hand module or even a new one and it isn't recoded to car spec. There's lots of examples on the net of people replacing an alarm siren and finding it now chirps on lock and unlock where it didn't before. Lots of chargeable options on a new car are just implemented by coding (e.g cornering lights) so could appear or disappear with a second hand front SAM of identical part number.

The SAM unit is programmable. The MB part number may be the same, but the unit's configuration will be unique to the car's VIN.

When the SAM is replaced, STAR will connect to MB and download from MB the car's configuration based on the car's VIN as recorded on the MB central computer.

Once this is done, the new SAM will know and activate all of the options installed in that particular vehicle.

In theory, you could remove a SAM from a donor car that has the exact same configuration as your car, down to the last option, but this is a very unlikely scenario.

That been said, a 'close enough' configuration will also work - a few options on the car might not work, and there may be a few fault codes for options that the SAM is looking for but can't find, but in the main the car will be driveable.

When you retrofit an option to the car, you need to SCN code it using STAR, this means that you update the car's configuration record with MB (aka 'Datacard'). You then download the new configuration from MB to the car's SAM, and this is how the SAM knows about new options that have been retrofitted to the vehicle.

 

[markjay]

Ironically, most aftermarket Headlight Bulbs are illegal to fit!
Would they be checked after an accident?

What most people get wrong, unfortunately, is that 'not getting caught' is not the same as 'being legal'.

If you drive at 30mph in a 20mph zone on a road where there are no cameras, then you won't get caught, but this doesn't make it legal, it just makes it possible.

"Would they be checked after an accident?" is the same as asking "Will I get caught if I drive at 30mph in a 20mph zone?"

Maybe yes, maybe no, depending on the circumstances.

Should you do it? Well.. that depends on your risk appetite.

 

[Mickyh7]

What most people get wrong, unfortunately, is that 'not getting caught' is not the same as 'being legal'.

If you drive at 30mph in a 20mph zone on a road where there are no cameras, then you won't get caught, but this doesn't make it legal, it just makes it possible.

"Would they be checked after an accident?" is the same as asking "Will I get caught if I drive at 30mph in a 20mph zone?"

Maybe yes, maybe no, depending on the circumstances.

Should you do it? Well.. that depends on your risk appetite.

Great Post.
But some of these laws are downright stupid.
The 20 mph law is great outside of a school, when the school is open, not so good rolled out across a whole Country, as in Wales.
The Government is now putting a stop to these 'Stupid Laws' in England.
They don't help the Planet, they dont stop accidents and they take Drivers Eye's off the road!
Some Laws don't work, some can't be Policed, people don't like them and some need changing.
Google Cash Cow, see where it takes you, not to dangerous roads, but to Monies Raised Automatically, usually on Straight Safe Motorways.
Look at France and their ridiculous Speed Camera Purge.
All gone now, because it was a 'Bad Law'.
I certainly don't want wrapping up in Cotton Wool by a government who want to drive my car for me!
Life's meant to have some risk, and I enjoy that.

 

[DSM10000]

Ironically, most aftermarket Headlight Bulbs are illegal to fit!
Would they be checked after an accident?
I'm afraid I can't be very helpful at the moment, because I have zero knowledge of Mercedes-Benz.
I'm guessing my post is just a touch 'risque' for mainstream?

Where is your evidence for "most aftermarket headlamp bulbs are illegal to fit"

As for "risqué" no.

 

[Mickyh7]

Where is your evidence for "most aftermarket headlamp bulbs are illegal to fit"

As for "risqué" no.

Unfortunately I won't supply evidence to strangers on an Internet forum. Nor links, nor anything else.
My time is worth more than that.
But Google is your friend, searching for Blue/White headlight bulbs.

 

[ALFAitalia]

Lovin' this thread....am I going to get involved!?......nope......

 

[ToeKnee]

Lovin' this thread....am I going to get involved!?......nope......

Go on, you know you want to........

 

[m80]

Lovin' this thread....am I going to get involved!?......nope......

I'm not sayin' nuthin neither.

 

[markjay]

Great Post.
But some of these laws are downright stupid.
The 20 mph law is great outside of a school, when the school is open, not so good rolled out across a whole Country, as in Wales.
The Government is now putting a stop to these 'Stupid Laws' in England.
They don't help the Planet, they dont stop accidents and they take Drivers Eye's off the road!
Some Laws don't work, some can't be Policed, people don't like them and some need changing.
Google Cash Cow, see where it takes you, not to dangerous roads, but to Monies Raised Automatically, usually on Straight Safe Motorways.
Look at France and their ridiculous Speed Camera Purge.
All gone now, because it was a 'Bad Law'.
I certainly don't want wrapping up in Cotton Wool by a government who want to drive my car for me!
Life's meant to have some risk, and I enjoy that.

There are very many reasons why people disregard the law.

It's always illegal to disregard the law. That been said, I am not a police officer nor do I get paid by the government to enforce the law.... and so you can do as you please (and you'll probably do it anyway even without my 'blessing').

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Lovin' this thread....am I going to get involved!?......nope......

 

[Shadgrind]

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[Shadgrind]

Personally I hate lane keep assist, don’t anyone who likes it, stop/start wears out your starter motor, so I pemanently disabled it on my MX5. There is a switch under the bonnet catch, that detects when the bonnet is closed, I unscrewed it put it in a ziplock bag and popped it back out of the way, dons’t give bonnet open warning. Happy days. I do see the OP’s point, I see everyone’s point but remember kids, opinions are like a***holes everyone’s got one. Gonna grab some popcorn, this could be slow burner but I guarantee someone better be wearing a Nomex suit

 

[markjay]

...There is a switch under the bonnet catch, that detects when the bonnet is closed, I unscrewed it put it in a ziplock bag and popped it back out of the way, dons’t give bonnet open warning. ..

That's totally different. You bypassed a fault instead of repairing it. Not what I personally would have done but it's your car. The point is that it's not the same as disabling a feature that isn't actually faulty and in fact does function as designed, but you don't like it. Different kettle of fish...

EDIT : assuming that the bonnet switch was indeed faulty and that you aren't in the habit of driving the car with the bonnet deliberately open......

 

[ToeKnee]

That's totally different. You bypassed a fault instead of repairing it. Not what I personally would have done but it's your car. The point is that it's not the same as disabling a feature that isn't actually faulty and in fact does function as designed, but you don't like it. Different kettle of fish...

EDIT : assuming that the bonnet switch was indeed faulty and that you aren't in the habit of driving the car with the bonnet deliberately open......

I read his post as removing the bonnet switch stops the stop/start from working?

 

[Connoisseur]

The one bit of derived technology I hate/have to laugh at is the ‘troll’,a useful example of which we are presented with here.

It posted
“How many years have you worked in the Automotive Business? I've done around 20 years, as a Certified Inspector. Working with such systems.
I know a tiny bit about this!
However,you are entitled to your opinion.”

Which is great entertainment ‘cos it then says it needs help to find a coder.

Poor thing! Imagine what it’ll be like when it gets to 16 Most definitely ‘certified’

 

[DSM10000]

Unfortunately I won't supply evidence to strangers on an Internet forum. Nor links, nor anything else.
My time is worth more than that.
But Google is your friend, searching for Blue/White headlight bulbs.

So you are new to the Forum, tell us in your opening posts that you are very experienced, that you don't need the technology your car is equipped with and, also that your presence here is going to be of value to us but you demand that only members who agree with you may reply to your posts and then you make claims that you cannot substantiate and your reason is that you cannot share such information on the Internet!

Absolute tosh!

I hardly think that the CIA and GCHQ would be monitoring your post for lists of illegal headlamp bulb suppliers.

So far you have come across as someone who is both arrogant and ignorant with a very overinflated sense of self and with all the hallmarks of the typical keyboard warrior safe in your own world but someone who would never act that way in real life.

We have all witnessed members like you who arrive and expect everyone to agree with them and to take their opinions as gospel without question.

I doubt that you will last here but regardless the ignore option is a very useful tool for preventing me having to see anymore of your self righteous responses.

Byeeeeee

 

[Tonygw]

I see this advertised all over Youtube

Diagnose and code your car

With the Carly app and scanner you can carry out diagnostics on your car, uncover odometer fraud or code your vehicle. Easy and at the push of a button on your mobile phone. One scanner for all car brands. | Carly OBD

www.mycarly.com

Claims to be able to code features on your car. Maybe worth a look? I have no experience with them but they make some bold claims.

Whether the unit can do what you need on your car or not I don't know sorry.

 

[Mickyh7]

I see this advertised all over Youtube

Diagnose and code your car

With the Carly app and scanner you can carry out diagnostics on your car, uncover odometer fraud or code your vehicle. Easy and at the push of a button on your mobile phone. One scanner for all car brands. | Carly OBD

www.mycarly.com

Claims to be able to code features on your car. Maybe worth a look? I have no experience with them but they make some bold claims.

Whether the unit can do what you need on your car or not I don't know sorry.

Thanks for that. I looked at it a few weeks ago, it doesn't look like it talks to Mercedes!
I used Carista when I had the Audi, that was a very good tool for around £35 a year. Great back up from the developers, when things went wrong occasionally!