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Did I used the right Oil ?

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At least one person on the forum gets it.

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I'm happy to look into API CK-4 oils but I haven't been given a manufacturer spec , they will probably be heavy goods truck manufacturer spec oils from the likes of Mann , Scania , Renault , Cattapillar , Volvo, Cummins , etc .

But I haven't been given an actual oil either that Mr Bellow uses.

All this started of with me saying that the OP's oil was better than norm as it also has a manufacturer spec that is superior because it's requirement is to prevent wear of it's mechanical design.

Please Mr Bellow what actual oil that you purchase are you using ???
 
Gazwould said:
But I haven't been given an actual oil either that Mr Bellow uses.


Please Mr Bellow what actual oil that you purchase are you using ???
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Bellow said:
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Bellow said:

Monolec Proprietary Additive | Lubrication Engineers

Monolec® is LE’s proprietary liquid wear-reducing additive that creates a single molecular lubricating film on metal surfaces, vastly increasing oil film strength without affecting clearances.
www.lelubricants.com www.lelubricants.com
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Bellow said:
LE8800 15W/40 in my father's Nissan Primera 2.0l (from first service onwards) which had 160,000 miles on it the last I heard of it and engine still going strong. Drain interval extended by 50%.

LE8800 15W/40 in my Nissan Almera GTi (from first service onwards) which spent most of its life chasing three digit speeds. Accident write-off at 118,000 miles - engine still perfect. Drain interval extended by 50%.

LE8800 15W/40 in my smart fortwo (from first service onwards) which went to 75,000 miles before needing the oil control rings attending to. Most expire by 50,000 miles.

LE8130 10W/30 in my Chevrolet Suburban Vortec 5.7l. No problems, doesn't burn a drop.

edit PS. And when the smart engine was opened up its internals were clean - unlike the filth inside the examples that failed at 50,000 miles.
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OK it's not over our part of the planet ?

All daft as a brush , this is not a thread about 15W40 or 10W30 oil but C3 0W30 / 5W30 oil , how stupid...
 
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Gazwould said:
OK it's not over our part of the planet ?
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It's obtainable - or it wouldn't have been possible for me to have used and continue using it. A bit like your Mercedes - not manufactured in Britain but available in Britain nonetheless.
Gazwould said:
All daft as a brush , this is not a thread about 15W40 or 10W30 oil but C3 0W30 / 5W30 oil , how stupid...
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Convenient.
But anyone seeking the best quality oil could easily use the 10W/30 variant and merely be a little more careful during the warm-up phase and have the recommended higher temperature viscosity at operating temperature. As I did in my smart with the 15W/40 version when 10W was the most viscous W viscosity recommended. And with good results too.
 
We aren't going to use a 10W or 15W gloop , it's not what you need over here , it doesn't matter how good the HTHS is it's going to be - 2°C tonight and
- 7 up north , no case of a warm up phase it's most wear at initial cold start till the oil gets to where it needs to be and if it's slow to flow that's going to cause wear and I hope most of the forum members here know that .

Your 10W30 is 83.3 centiStokes @40°C and obviously a lot thicker below freezing .

My 5W30 is 68.4 centiStokes @40°C , the difference between the two a lot greater at lower temps .

This is at - 25°C
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Gazwould said:
We aren't going to use a 10W or 15W gloop , it's not what you need over here ,
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What? I'm in NE Scotland where it's colder than where you are.
Gazwould said:
it doesn't matter how good the HTHS is it's going to be - 2°C tonight and
- 7 up north , no case of a warm up phase it's most wear at initial cold start till the oil gets to where it needs to be and if it's slow to flow that's going to cause wear and I hope most of the forum members here know that .
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As I said, if you are prepared to spend a short time warming it before driving it hard, the oil will still get to where it needs to be. In temps heading toward minus 20C my 15W where 10W was recommended was fine. My oils BTW, contain tackifier which activates on cooling to make the oil cling to surfaces ready for the next cold start. A nice touch from a company that focuses on making lubricants as good as they can be instead of doing the bare minimum to get manufacturer approval.
Gazwould said:
Your 10W30 is 83.3 centiStokes @40°C and obviously a lot thicker below freezing .

My 5W30 is 68.4 centiStokes @40°C , the difference between the two a lot greater at lower temps .

This is at - 25°C
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-25C is very rare in this country - even NE Scotland. Not frequent enough to base an oil choice on.
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Well actually no.
When a 5W oil is up to temp the viscosity of its oil (and all that that contributes to preventing wear) is still only what a 5W can provide and the gap to 30 is bridged not with oil but long chain polymers (viscosity improvers) which get chopped up in service and allow the oil to drift 'out of grade. And unless all you do is short trips, the engine will spend more of its time at operating temp where the superior HTHS is important.
If my view on this is wrong - why did my smart running 15W where 10W is recommended manage 50% more miles before the inevitable failure of the oil control rings compared to those that used the recommended grade?
 
It's a W205 Euro 6 C220d oil thread buddy , inferior 10W30 & 15W40 CK-4 oils have no place here .

The way you were talking and the pic of your truck whatever it is I thought you might be from Australia or something .
 
Gazwould said:
It's a W205 Euro 6 C220d oil thread buddy , inferior 10W30 & 15W40 CK-4 oils have no place here .

The way you were talking and the pic of your truck whatever it is I thought you might be from Australia or something .
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Yes, that well known Australian city Ecosse... An Ecossie - I can see why you were confused.
 
I wonder if a fluid C3 VW 504.00 507.00 could beat a thick CK-4 oil in an oil film psi strength test.
 
Gazwould said:
I wonder if a fluid C3 VW 504.00 507.00 could beat a thick CK-4 oil in an oil film psi strength test.
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Falex 3 is the value to beat. You don't stand a chance of beating that. Falex 6 for the 10W/30. Again not a chance of even getting close. I'll be surprised if any of your proposals even pass to attain a numerical value.
 
Bellow said:
Falex 3 is the value to beat. You don't stand a chance of beating that. Falex 6 for the 10W/30. Again not a chance of even getting close. I'll be surprised if any of your proposals even pass to attain a numerical value.
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For that to happen someone would of had to test under the same conditions both your 10W30 Monolec Ultra Diesel oil and a VW 504.00 507.00.
 
Oil beef hooked.
 
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