E250 Engine being discontinued

[Tiim533]

Hi

A bit of advice please. I put in an order for a new E250 Cab a month ago from a MB dealer. They chased up the order today and the dealer was told that MB are discontinuing the 250 engine with immediate effect.

I have a choice of paying an extra £2k for the e350, or getting back £1,500 for downgrading to the e220.

Can this be right? This will be my first MB, and pretty annoyed that before I've even got the car they've broken the contract?

Any advice gratefully received.

Many thanks
Tim

 

[Deleted member 37751]

Welcome to the forum Tim.

They aren't discontinuing the engine (it's a 2.2 that's in everything from vans to the CLS) it's just they're not selling the 250 anymore due to Euro 6 requirements from what I gather.

They did the same years ago with the 2.7 IL5 CDI which is/was an absolute cracker, all down to emissions and other environmental issues so we're told.

If go for the 350 CDI if I was in your shoes, it's a lot smoother than the 4 pot 220/250.

 

[Red C220]

See if your dealer will price match an E350 from this broker:-

https://www.orangewheels.co.uk/new/mercedes-benz.html

 

[B-BOY]

The C Class is a new model and I'm sure that has a 250CDI engine. Does that mean no 250 in C Class or just in the E Class?

 

[grober]

AND YET-------- if you look at the German website you will find they still offer the E250 BLUETEC model which is Euro 6 compliant--- funny that.
Just another example of how MB UK restricts model choice for the UK buyer.
Mercedes-Benz Deutschland - Technische Daten - Modelle

 

[kam09]

Haggle on the 2k as u have to go for the 350 rather than the weak 220 imo..

 

[Tiim533]

Thanks all.

I pushed the on the price to start with and they've agreed on £855 (so half) to go up to the E350. Therefore the price all in is a fair bit less than the orange wheels website above.

 

[clk208]

£855 to go from a 250 to a 350 sounds like a bargain.

 

[Vlad]

My local Indi hates the 250 engine...says its the one to avoid....too many problems. I wonder if the durability of the 250 has caused them to withdraw it?

 

[The _Don]

Thanks all. I pushed the on the price to start with and they've agreed on £855 (so half) to go up to the E350. Therefore the price all in is a fair bit less than the orange wheels website above.

Say you're going to cancel the order and see what happens, push for no extra cost for the 350.

 

[kjl]

I agree with the posters above, the 6 pot is a no brainer. I have just changed my CLK 320 CDi for a one year old E 350CDi BLUETEC and the V6 is a lovely smooth and quiet engine both inside and outside the car. The 4 cylinder is rough and noisey in comparison.

 

[gaz_l]

I pushed the on the price to start with and they've agreed on £855 (so half) to go up to the E350.

Sounds like a result to me. The V6 is a much smoother sounding engine, and as you've ordered a cabrio it'll be far more pleasant when you're wafting around with the top down..

Plus the 350 can really pick up its skirts when you need to press on, from what I hear. Always handy

Cheers,

Gaz

 

[crockers]

What about other costs? Fuel consumption, road tax, insurance.

Have MB addressed the V6s inlet port manifold problems and lower bearings??

 

[flat6buster]

4 pot diesel is hateful. Sounds like the bar steward offspring of a tractor and a transit. 350 upgrade means you dodged a bullet I would think.

 

[Tiim533]

Say you're going to cancel the order and see what happens, push for no extra cost for the 350.

I already agreed to it anyway. I get called an obnoxious **** quite a lot anyway so didn't want to push further,

 

[Dave Matthews]

Hi folks,

New member here. At the risk of getting lynched, I love my old Volvo V70 but it's time to change it and the new Chinese owners have rather "blinged it up" in recent years, so I'm keenly looking at acquiring an E-Class as a replacement...

I've been thinking of buying a W212 - probably a two-year old one - and the E250 seemed to be a good compromise between the frugality of the E220 and barnstorming performance of the E350. Did anyone get to the bottom of why the E250 was withdrawn (at least from the UK market)?...

If it was solely because of emissions regulations then that wouldn't trouble me. But a quick search on the 'Net suggests that there may have been generic issues with injectors on the E250, in which case perhaps I should plump for the E350 instead?

Either way, it's seems a great shame the E250 was withdrawn.

Any advice or imparted experience would be much appreciated!

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Many thanks!

Dave

 

[Scooby_Doo]

Only withdrawn in the UK, was still being sold as a 250 in France & Germany up to the introduction of the W213. I don't know why as I would have gone for a 250 rather than a 220. Would have loved a 350 but having had a CLS350 on loan for a few days I would either be in hospital or have megapoints on my license - what a beast.

 

[T5R+]

Hi folks,

New member here. At the risk of getting lynched, I love my old Volvo V70 but it's time to change it and the new Chinese owners have rather "blinged it up" in recent years, so I'm keenly looking at acquiring an E-Class as a replacement...

Dave

Volvo to MB "traitor" here.

Ironically, on my 200mile commute this past Sunday musing "The Volvo and especially D5 are lovely cars BUT you know what, MB whilst more expensive is worth it". Only thinking this way as considering replacing my car and looked at Volvos again but decided (today at least) to remain with MB.

So, I have a W212 E250CDi "AMG wannabe" saloon prefacelift (square headlight) and cover about 30K year. Car has almost 200K on it. It has averaged 52MPG over last year (33K miles). Surprised how well continental tyres last ie a set of rears every 2 years. Washed and polished it still invites compliments from strangers. Artico has stood up well, even though it is very light in colour (almost white). I visit various workplaces and it luckily does not draw car park envy from clients/customers (important to me), in all probability as it is a few years old. Ironically, if I ever turn up in my ML, it has the opposite effect even though 5 years old.

Challenges: needed a new set of injectors and fuel system (cheeky MB undertook when in for a service without notifying me, but FOC) - (note, no issues with recent cars as issue found on earlier cars), exhaust temperature senors replaced (common but cheap), water pump replaced (MB now do exchange service), DPF cleaned (£193) by independent as MB wanted £2040!), usual consumables tyres and oil inc filters plus wiper blades BUT no bulbs whatsoever.

Torn between replacing with a 350 or 250 BUT know that the 250 is the most sensible choice for me (eg in my case the 350 would cost an extra £1200-1500 per annum excl depreciation). Ironically, would "chip" a 350 but not a 250.

 

[Dave Matthews]

Hi folks,

Just to bring "closure" to my post the other week, I ended up buying an E250. (It's the CDI SE version - I didn't want an AMG one as I prefer a more "wafty", "majesterial" ride!). Black metallic, cream interior, "walnut" trim, panoramic roof and stacks of other optional extras - all rather fab! Other than the 1950s-style parking brake arrangement, so far very pleased indeed with it. Much quieter engine than the Volvo V70, too - and seemingly getting around 43mpg in mixed driving.

Performance-wise it doesn't have the barnstorming attack and verve that the V70 had - but I think it simply brings the power in more smoothly. Must admit, though, that if a change of job leads to doing a lower annual milage, I'd definitely take the hit on fuel consumption and go for the six-pot three-litre motor next time!

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Cheers,

Dave

 

[400ixl]

The new 220 has the performance of the old 250, so not a downgrade. Other than sound its a better all round diesel choice than the 350 which is thirsty and not really that much better performing in real life.

I'd take the 220 as a diesel is a diesel, neither sound brilliant, so may as well get the cheaper running.