E63 - Slightly Disappointed

[rsk21]

That seems to be a common complaint with '63 engined AMG cars. They are one trick ponies.

Would you care to elaborate?

The ones I have owned have not only been quick but also sounded, stopped and gone round tracks/corners better than their smaller engined and non-AMG brethren. Throw in stuff like Designo colour schemes and splitview inside then I count at least five tricks.

 

[Tan]

I feel that Mercedes have devalued the AMG brand a little by making the standard cars with a body kit look so much like the real deal. In the past if you chose the AMG body kit on a non AMG car you had a car that looked special and had a degree of exclusivity or you could buy the AMG variant that went as well as it looked.

Regards a car being "too common" in that regards any hot version of a main steam car will suffer from that unless its being looked at by a petrol head.

In my opinion Mercedes have taken exclusivity away from even their own current models by making models look too similar like the current E-class and the CLS, in the past most people could tell a W211 and the original CLS apart.

 

[hotong86]

If you guys think mercedes have diluted the AMG brand too much then you should take a look at BMW. BMW have M sport. M135i/m235i and the full fat ///M. The M sub brand was one of the reasons I've moved away from ///M.
On the other hand. It's business at the end of the day. Your gonna sell 100's if not 1000's of non amg cars by the time you sell one. If we didn't drive Amg cars. We'd be driving mercedes with the Amg kit on it. Not everyone's in a position to purchase 70k car at the end of the day

-ho

 

[gunning]

Amg certainly isn't about just power and noise. My cls went around the track very well. Having now had a cls55 amg and a cls320 cdi two cars, very different indeed. Luckily I do have airmatic on both, but the amg is a completely different experience in terms of a drivers car. Like others have said, steering, suspension, braking massively so. The amg brakes as tremendous! They do overheat under hard work but over all the amg package is completely different. Seats were a big one for me too.

 

[Dieselman]

Really. And you are speaking from experience? My coupe manages to be a nice daily driver, is great for covering large mileages and happens to be quite quick when I want to press on. So not really a one trick pony.

Would you care to elaborate?

The ones I have owned have not only been quick but also sounded, stopped and gone round tracks/corners better than their smaller engined and non-AMG brethren. Throw in stuff like Designo colour schemes and splitview inside then I count at least five tricks.

Compared to other high performance cars they don't corner or brake very well.
They are a standard car with a big engine and a bit better at being sporty, but the engine overpowers the handling by some margin.

The other bits mentioned are trim and are incidental.

 

[gunning]

Sorry but the amg braking system is much more advanced I found than the Audi systems and how can you say they are the same as a standard car? Quite clearly not the case

 

[rsk21]

Compared to other high performance cars they don't corner or brake very well.
They are a standard car with a big engine and a bit better at being sporty, but the engine overpowers the handling by some margin.

I'm afraid I don't agree with you.

Judging from various road tests of recent models it seems others don't either.

Regarding your use of the term "standard car" are you saying that other than the engine an E63 is the same as an E250 for example?

What is the basis of your assertions?

 

[whitenemesis]

AMG fettle the suspension quite extensively, the braking is uprated to cope with the extra loads and repeated applications. Transmissions/drive chain are also tuned and strengthened.

AMG cars are far more than stock models with big engines.

 

[rsk21]

AMG fettle the suspension quite extensively, the braking is uprated to cope with the extra loads and repeated applications. Transmissions/drive chain are also tuned and strengthened.

AMG cars are far more than stock models with big engines.

Dieselman knows that.

On reflection it's pretty clear he makes these sweeping and unfounded statements in order to provoke a response from people.

More fool me for having responded!

 

[seven]

The words 'don't' and 'feed' spring to mind.

 

[Rory]

I loaned an E220 CDI whilst waiting for the E63. I think this would retail for something like £36-£37k. I gave a good friend a lift in it and he was very complementary. I explained my plans that I was waiting for the E63. When it eventually arrived, I was keen to show him the difference and had a fairly long run in it. He was suitably impressed by the sound of it and the performance but was stunned when I told him the price difference and asked ‘what else does it do'. I couldn't answer him.

Don't get me wrong - I think it's great that people buy cars like E63, M5, RS6 etc, but I wonder if they're really produced as "halo" models more as a demonstration of what the manufacturers can do rather than with any intent of actually selling them?

Sadly (for you) you've compared your E63 with E220CDi and that's highlighted that E63 doesn't make sense in any logical way - once that thought enters your head then it's bound to feel disappointing.

 

[Lee C63]

I can see the Op's original point if your using tour car as a daily driver pottering around at 30-70mph is there much difference between a standard model and the AMG (the ride is probably softer than the AMG). Then why pay the extra money.

If however you have a passion for cars and a simple 5 mile 15 minute trip to the shop for a pint of milk turns into a 90 minute diversion round the twisty roads, then this is why you have the AMG.
I love pulling into the petrol station and people looking and seeing the 6.3 badge and some look shocked and others admire.
I love the sound from the 6.3 and I love the shear performance when you want it......
Mine is a C class and parked next to a C350 doesnt look that much different........but it is!!!

 

[ghibbett]

Compared to other high performance cars they don't corner or brake very well.

Ah yes, but compared with other lesser performance cars, they do corner and brake very well.

 

[bellers]

Hi everyone. I picked my C63 up on Tuesday from Mercedes Sheffield. I tried the C63 ,E63 and CLA 45. The only one I kept being drawn back to was the C63. The CLA seemed to be flimsy feeling and almost light compared to the 63. I am just getting used to it and keep finding excuses to go out and use it. I agree with Lee C63,even short trips turn into 30 minute runs and bring me home smiling. It attracts attention everywhere it goes and turns heads every time I pull away. Best purchase I ever made.

 

[developer]

Hi everyone. I picked my C63 up on Tuesday from Mercedes Sheffield. I tried the C63 ,E63 and CLA 45. The only one I kept being drawn back to was the C63. The CLA seemed to be flimsy feeling and almost light compared to the 63. I am just getting used to it and keep finding excuses to go out and use it. I agree with Lee C63,even short trips turn into 30 minute runs and bring me home smiling. It attracts attention everywhere it goes and turns heads every time I pull away. Best purchase I ever made.

Welcome - enjoy your car, and lets see a few photos .

 

[st13phil]

Sadly (for you) you've compared your E63 with E220CDi and that's highlighted that E63 doesn't make sense in any logical way - once that thought enters your head then it's bound to feel disappointing.

There's absolutely no doubt whatsoever that on pure functionality and financial terms, an E63 makes no sense whatsoever - something that I knew 100% before I elected to buy one. If you only realise that after you've made the purchase then disappointment is likely to follow.

If however you have a passion for cars and a simple 5 mile 15 minute trip to the shop for a pint of milk turns into a 90 minute diversion round the twisty roads, then this is why you have the AMG.

And that's why, to me, the purchase made sense (sort of!). It's emotional. Every morning when I start the car up it makes me smile. Every time I use the performance I feel exhilarated in the same way that gunning a big bike makes me feel. And all that from a well-appointed luxury car that I can pootle around in relatively unnoticed if I choose to. If you don't feel that way then an E63 (or any AMG) is almost certainly the wrong car for you.

 

[markjay]

As Jeremy Clackson once said... if people were purchasing cars sensibly then there would only be one car on the market - VW Golf....

 

[rsk21]

Quite a few ex m156 owners who now own m157 engined amgs are not over the moon with their newer cars.

When I went from C63 wagon to CLS SB whilst I wasn't disappointed in the car per-se I did have nagging doubts about the engine.

The 156 is such a unique thing, undoubtedly outmoded but wonderfully so. The 157 whilst in comparison to many many other power plants is also a very fine engine and much more in keeping with modern day requirements. It is telling though that I have spent approximately £2.5k on my car to get it to a place where I now no longer have regrets about no longer driving a 156 each day. I'm glad I did though and will no doubt do so again when the next change comes along. Fortunately this board is blessed with some very helpful, informative and talented sponsors who can assist

 

[rsk21]

There's only one reason you're now crying over spilled milk....... it hasn't been upgraded with a pulley and map Then you won't give a $hit about the display as you will be smiling at the speed of the white lines passing you by..........on a runway of course

Pulley ?

It's a twin turbo

 

[rsk21]

I have had my 2014 E63 Estate for about a month now and I have to say I am slightly disappointed. Two reasons:

OP I share your pain in as much as buyers remorse is an unpleasant feeling

Out of interest what is is that made you feel the RS6 was "better"/more deserving of its price tag ?

I looked closely at an RS6 prior to buying my last AMG and could find two areas where, subjectively, it could be seen as superior to the equivalent AMG car.

1 - The grip afforded by Quattro - a positive factor but at the cost of a degree of fun in my opinion

2 - The infotainment systems - I agree these are a good way ahead of the MB system in terms of ergonomics and integration. I couldn't however discern additional core functionality over what is available via Comand and various other MB systems.

Both of the above are available on models throughout the A6 range so in my view don't tick the "so what else does it do for the money" box. Putting performance aside the only major differentiator that I could in the cabin was the RS sports seats.