Engine oil 5w30 for w211 E320 CDI 2004.

[350cls]

Misconception about oil brands and prices , Inc super derv .

If one was stranded and to get by or on the move the wrong specified oil I suppose would do!! As a temporary fix!

But do you think the non specified oil is ok to use?

 

[AW8]

Misconception about oil brands and prices , Inc super derv .

Every day is a potential school day....please elaborate/clarify if able & willing.

 

[markjay]

The one that says MB 229.52 is fine for your car. This is the latest low-ash oil spec, and while you don't need the low-ash oil if the car has no DPF - i.e. the standard 229.5 would do - low-ash oil won't do it any harm and so 229.52 will also be fine.

What does the other bottle say? If it does not have an MB oil spec sheet stated, I wouldn't use it.

 

[Gazwould]

Every day is a potential school day....please elaborate/clarify if able & willing.

Ever heard of Blackstone Laboratories ?

Which Oil to Use? | Blackstone Laboratories

www.blackstone-labs.com

"You can go into any mass retailer (Wal-Mart, Meijer, AutoZone, etc.) and buy a 5W/30 (or any other grade) that will perform well in your engine. One of the best-kept secrets of the oil industry is that these store brands are actually the same, quality oils that are produced by the major oil companies. The only difference between these products and the major company brands is the name on the container and the price. Don’t believe us? Try running your own experiment: do a sample on Oil A after a known number of miles, then do a sample on Oil B and compare the wear levels. You may see a little fluctuation, but it’s very rare for one oil to make a significant difference in an engine’s wear patterns."


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If something isn't as it should be we have VLS .

 

[pmcgsmurf]

Only thing is not to become complacent and just stick any old oil in as it's important to remember there are different grades of for example 5w30.
I know a local taxi firm that screwed their cars DPFs as they did not use the Low Ash, same for a mate I bumped into at motor factors.

For me yes, use any that is correct grade but I'd never simply buy any brand of oil from some random cheapest seller on ebay for obvious reasons.

 

[markjay]

Ever heard of Blackstone Laboratories ?

Which Oil to Use? | Blackstone Laboratories

www.blackstone-labs.com

"You can go into any mass retailer (Wal-Mart, Meijer, AutoZone, etc.) and buy a 5W/30 (or any other grade) that will perform well in your engine. One of the best-kept secrets of the oil industry is that these store brands are actually the same, quality oils that are produced by the major oil companies. The only difference between these products and the major company brands is the name on the container and the price. Don’t believe us? Try running your own experiment: do a sample on Oil A after a known number of miles, then do a sample on Oil B and compare the wear levels. You may see a little fluctuation, but it’s very rare for one oil to make a significant difference in an engine’s wear patterns."


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If something isn't as it should be we have VLS .

If I understand correctly, what you are saying is that Wallmart use the same oil and sell it under different own-brand names.

If so, then this is not the same as Halfords' selling the same Halfords-branded oil in bottles with different manufacturers' specs on them.

I obviously don't know what Halfords do or don't do, but if this is what you meant to say then I think that this would amount to fraud.

(I don't personally find it likely, but if this proved to be the case, then I wouldn't use any Halfords-branded oil, not even the one with the MB spec sheet on it, because I wouldn't trust it.)

But on balance, if I were the OP I would use the bottle with the MB spec sheet in it, but not the other

 

[Gazwould]

I haven't found out who makes for Halfords , the supermarkets I have .

I've used this oil for several years if it weren't up to quality the PD engine would have severely worn camshaft lobes .

 

[Gazwould]

Only thing is not to become complacent and just stick any old oil in as it's important to remember there are different grades of for example 5w30.
I know a local taxi firm that screwed their cars DPFs as they did not use the Low Ash, same for a mate I bumped into at motor factors.

For me yes, use any that is correct grade but I'd never simply buy any brand of oil from some random cheapest seller on ebay for obvious reasons.

A reason why I'm free to choose a non MB oil that provides greater anti wear protection and kinder to the dpf , for a Mercedes .

 

[pmcgsmurf]

A reason why I'm free to choose a non MB oil that provides greater anti wear protection and kinder to the dpf , for a Mercedes .

I think the VW spec. is actually a bit better than the MB.

 

[Gazwould]

Depending on the brand it sometimes carries the MB specs , a very complete oil would be VW 504.00 507.00 MB 229.52 as you would gain the 229.52's fuel economy so also qualifies as a C2.

Such oils are Mobil 1 ESP Formula and Granville Hypalube Evo .

But what actual mpg difference would occur!

 

[Jockcl500]

Ever heard of Blackstone Laboratories ?

Which Oil to Use? | Blackstone Laboratories

www.blackstone-labs.com

"You can go into any mass retailer (Wal-Mart, Meijer, AutoZone, etc.) and buy a 5W/30 (or any other grade) that will perform well in your engine. One of the best-kept secrets of the oil industry is that these store brands are actually the same, quality oils that are produced by the major oil companies. The only difference between these products and the major company brands is the name on the container and the price. Don’t believe us? Try running your own experiment: do a sample on Oil A after a known number of miles, then do a sample on Oil B and compare the wear levels. You may see a little fluctuation, but it’s very rare for one oil to make a significant difference in an engine’s wear patterns."


And then there's Micks Garage

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If something isn't as it should be we have VLS .

I agree lots of products are made by the same manufacturer who label and supplied in a branded box, and it's not just oil or a oil filter, buy a chicken from Aldi, Sainsbury, Waitrose and many others, which are produced, packed and labelled in the same factory.

 

[350cls]

Spoken to two different machanics this morning and they have the opinion that the two oils in question would be absolutely fine. Regular changes, both synthetic oil and of the same viscosity!!!

 

[pmcgsmurf]

Spoken to two different machanics this morning and they have the opinion that the two oils in question would be absolutely fine. Regular changes, both synthetic oil and of the same viscosity!!!

I still don't get why you don't just get the right stuff!
Not worth it if there is any doubt at all for me.

 

[markjay]

I haven't found out who makes for Halfords , the supermarkets I have .

I've used this oil for several years if it weren't up to quality the PD engine would have severely worn camshaft lobes .

If I understand correctly, the OP's question was whether it was OK to use oil that did not have the MB Spec Sheet marking.

Who manufacturers the oil for Halfords wasn't the issue in this case...

At any rate, the OP has since decided that it was OK to use the bottle of oil that had no MB Spec Sheet marking.

 

[350cls]

I still don't get why you don't just get the right stuff!
Not worth it if there is any doubt at all for me.

Two reasons really, the inconvenience of going all the way back to the shop. And I opened the bottle in question just as I realized it had a different number attached to it. So they wouldn't accept the return. That's whys!!

 

[350cls]

Double check and double check again. Is a lesson I learned yesterday.

Measure twice cut once springs to mind.

Like I said above. Safe distancing would work really easily in a shop like Halfords!!!

 

[pmcgsmurf]

Two reasons really, the inconvenience of going all the way back to the shop. And I opened the bottle in question just as I realized it had a different number attached to it. So they wouldn't accept the return. That's whys!!

That explains it now.

I'd still take it back and point out the mistake, they can easily check their stock system to see they are 1 out on each.
A lot better noticing the mistake before the oil goes in rather than after.

Still wouldn't use it if it were me as for me anything that reduces the black stuff is a must have.

 

[350cls]

Halfords will not take the oil as I did break the seal on the container of oil. Fair enough, I'm going ahead and will put 1.5 to 2.0 litres of the non specified MB same viscosity oil in the car.

 

[AW8]

Ever heard of Blackstone Laboratories ?

Which Oil to Use? | Blackstone Laboratories

www.blackstone-labs.com

And then there's Micks Garage

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If something isn't as it should be we have VLS .

Thanks for providing pasted links & content.

In answer to your question . No - I had not prior heard of Blackstone Laboratories

I wasn't suggesting premium oil or fuel must be used - I was effectively simply saying that given a choice I would prefer fill entirely with MB spec oil rather than blend with non MB spec lube.

As said mine had MB spec Comma Oil last service.....I am happy enough, (this time at least).

Some say "some" Halfords oil is allegedly re-branded Comma...I have no idea if this is correct.

I know many commentators & claimed experts state cheaper priced correct spec oils are fine but I also know that there are others who speak with authority who would argue otherwise.

As for premium fuel I tend to use Shell premium stuff as it as it allegedly has some detergents. I recently spoke to someone who ran a car on it for many miles & when he striped down it was clean as a whistle. I don't put it in with a view to shaving seconds off my sprint times & don't cry if I don't use it in every tank.

I have also used FORTE fuel system cleaner cleaner which I understand to be a good product.

Have prior seen & heard many conflicting views re pros & cons of certain vehicle fluids.

Thanks again

 

[KingAky]

Is comma engine oil any good for Mercedes?