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So after 16 years we've regained the Ashes - can anyone explain how when Australia haven't batted yet? :confused:
 
Because it's going to be a draw.

We've one 2 tests, they've one 1, one test was drawn and we are about to draw a second. Therefore we've won more matches than them (2-1), so we win the ashes.

If they'd won this test then it would have been a series 2-2 draw and they'd have kept the ashes.

See?
 
so where does the offside rule come in then :confused:

he he :rolleyes:
 
We've one 2 tests, they've one 1, one test was drawn and we are about to draw a second. Therefore we've won more matches than them (2-1), so we win the ashes.

If they'd won this test then it would have been a series 2-2 draw and they'd have kept the ashes.

See?

Third time lucky :D

Why is it going to be a draw in this match?
 
'cause we're not all out yet (quick check.....) no, we're not all out yet. To win we've got to bowl out the Aussie's. Assuming we declare now or the last England wickets go down in the next couple of minutes it only leaves about 45 minutes to bowl the Aussies out. Unlikely.

Howewever, we should declare and have a go anyway - that way they can't blame losing the ashes on the weather.

And I'm an **** because I can't spell won!
 
Yes. Maximum overs in a day = 98. Play should finish at 6.00pm. Play can continue to 6.30 if over rate too low (not sure how below 98 equalls too low) however in effect the over rate is always too low so play always continues to 6.30.

Today is the fifth day of this test and therefore the test will end today, it being a 5 day test.

Hurrah!

How have you got this far through Summer without knowing this?
 
I'm not a huge cricket fan - just wondered how it worked. How does the declare thing work? What happens if a team isn't bowled out in a day or 98 Overs? Successively a draw? Runs are only relevant if both teams are bowled then?
 
Congrats to all English cricket fans - you've taken the Ashes from my countrymen!

:-)
 
COME ON THE LADS!!!!
Great result! and hell they really out played Australia so fair play to them
 
scotth_uk said:
Congrats to all English cricket fans - you've taken the Ashes from my countrymen!

:-)

Very sporting of you Scott - nice one England, well played the Aussies :D :bannana: :rock:
 
stats007 said:
I'm not a huge cricket fan - just wondered how it worked. How does the declare thing work? What happens if a team isn't bowled out in a day or 98 Overs? Successively a draw? Runs are only relevant if both teams are bowled then?

Well (he say's positioning the salt and pepper pots), this could be a very big post so I'll sumarise:

The ashes series consisted of 5 test matches. A test match is played (generally) over 5 days. Each team bats twice - has two innings (it's a game of 4 halves). The score from both innings is added together for a teams total. The winner is the team that (a) has the greater score and (b) has bowled the opposition out twice.

At this point I should point out that a team may 'declare'. Bearing in mind the match is time limited, the batting team may consider they have enough runs and want to start trying to bowl the opposition out before time runs out. Declaring does not get you any credits but is simply a means of controlling how long your innings may last instead of waiting to be all out - buys a bit of time if having scored well. Declaring is the same as being all out.

Example:
Coin is tossed, Aussie captain calls heads. It's tails. England captain gets to choose whether to bat first or field first. Elects to bat first.
Game on.

England 1st innings score 450 all out
Aussies 1st innings all out for 200
England 2nd innings score 200 and declare on 5th day lunch (lead therefore 450)
Aussies 2nd innings bowled out for less than 450 - England win!
or
Aussies knock the ball all over the place scoring 451 - Aussies win!
or
Aussies occupy the crease scoring 100 by the close of play on day 5 therefore play ends with England leading by 350 BUT Aussies not all out - Draw!

Yesterday was a draw because although we had more runs the Aussie's weren't all out. We could have declared earlier and put them in to bat to try and win but we didn't have a safe lead until late on so the risk was that they could have beaten us. So the series ended England won 2 Aussies won 1 and 2 matches drawn.

AND WE WON THE ASHES AT LAST!
 
Have you seen the state of Freddie Flintoff in the papers this morning? I'm a thinking he's been celebrating non-stop since 6.30pm Monday evening. Can't say I blame him though. Well done lads!
 
996jimbo said:
'cause we're not all out yet (quick check.....) no, we're not all out yet. To win we've got to bowl out the Aussie's. Assuming we declare now or the last England wickets go down in the next couple of minutes it only leaves about 45 minutes to bowl the Aussies out. Unlikely.

Howewever, we should declare and have a go anyway - that way they can't blame losing the ashes on the weather.

Reality check mate. England would have won the Old Trafford test but for a day lost due to rain. So that would have been 3-1 to England.
In the last test the Australians were boasting about a substantial lead in the first innings after making a great start. However they were skittled out for LESS than England's total (nothing new there). So to be honest if there had been another day for Australia to bat in their last innings we still would have bowled them out for LESS !!! Verdict : It should have been 4-1 :D
 
I am stilled annoyed at how ALL the media are picking on a few of the English cricket team for their celebrating a great win!!

The team played hard, were exempary in their behaviour whilst on the field of play, were diplomatic, their sportsmanship was beyond reproach and this is something that is very rarely seen on a football pitch.

Flintoff had clearly been celebrating, but not one profanity left his lips, he merely had a huge, innocent grin and tried his hardest to put two coherant words together!! Brilliant :cool:

My only concern which was not highlighted was his holding of his beautiful baby daughter on the top deck of an open topped double decker bus.

Rooney should be locked in a room and made to watch both the Australians and the English teams firstly rattling cricket balls off of each other at speeds in excess of 90mph, then either congratulating, or commiserating the opposition whenever the situation warranted it.

Shane Warne must have felt terrible when he dropped a fairly easy catch when Peterson first came in on that last innings. That missed catch could so easily have cost Australia the whole series, yet when Peterson went on to score the 50, 100, 150, and finally when he was bowled out, Warne was their congratulating him. That to me highlights the difference between men and boys, or football players and cricketers.

Well done England and well played Australia. I fear the next series in Australia might not be so easy!!

John
 

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