first post looking for Olly

[vipclk320]

Hello everyone, I just became a member and wanted to say hello to everyone. Ive been a memeber on mbworld.org for years and just joined here as it seems that all the inovatice ideas and engine swaps happen here. I am currently in the process of swapping my 1999 CLK 320 with a 55 motor and trans and had some questions regarding the body harness compatibility and i was told Mr. Olly is the man with the knowledge.

 

[carat 3.6]

Welcome to the forum. Olly is certainly the man to speak to, He's built a few c55's so should be able to help.

 

[MicB]

Hello and welcome

Mic

 

[BlackC55]

Hello.

How can I help.

 

[reflexboy]

Hello.

How can I help.

Put the Kettle on!

 

[Pauljay]

Hi Ash!

Welcome to the UK!
You can get some good info over here too.

I'm mainly Stateside though!

 

[DRBC43AMG]

Put the Kettle on!

....and stock a reserve of biscuits

 

[trapperjohn]

Welcome aboard.

 

[d w124]

Hi and welcome to the forum

 

[Airbag]

I'm off to drop into Horndean on Monday, aboard an E200 W210 Wagon with an 'interesting' engine whine. I'll bring biscuits.

sue

 

[martyz]

Hi, and Welcome

 

[vipclk320]

Thank you for all the welcomes, I love the UK fourms everyone is very friendly as oppose to the state side fourms or as i like to call angry bird fourms, lol.

Pauljay, how are you brother, glad to see you here man, there are deffinatly more aggressive tunning going on here than the other fourms which is my style.

Black c55, thank you very much for responding, i'll give you a quick run down of my situation, before hand i like to thank you for taking the time to read this in advanced.

I have a 1999 CLK w208 320, mine is the year before it came with tiptronics shifter, I am looking to do a motor swap to the 55 N/A (w210,w208), how ever I like to have the newer shifter with tip tronics because i have retro fitted a w204 c63 steering wheel and i will be using the paddle shifts and also i like the response of the tiptronics. so my question is do i need to relace the complete body harness or just the shifter harness?

this is what i found so far, every part of the harness is the same because i have taken may parts from the newer w208 and put on mine including the gauge cluster which is very digfferent than my ooriginal, the newer one doesn't have the clock adjustment and it also has the gear display, everything works perfect and it plugged right in to my existing harness. i looked at the current wires for the shifter(mechanical) and it has one cable and two harnesses, but the newer shifters have one harness which a stash wires goes toward the fire wall and one goes under the carpet and finds its way behinde the gauge cluster inside one of the canbuses that plugs into the cluster which i'm assuming is for the gear display. I also checked the wiring that comes from the inside of the car(behinde the dash) into the ECU box and plugs into the ecu and it has a different canbus than the 55 ecu. but i'm not sure if those wires go directly to the cluster and if i only need to change those or if they go to the sam unit? i know the engine has a different harness which i already purchased along with the 55ECU and ignition out of the same car, the differential, the drive shaft(4 bolt drive shaft) and the trans control unit. the wires that come out of the ecu and go to the back of the wire wall are the ones that have me puzzled, because i'm not sure where they plug into behinde the dash and if i can just replace those or if i have to replace the whole body harness which i really dont waant to do. also if you can confirm my idea of the shifter wiring and how it works, i'm assuming that all i have to change is the shifter and the wiring and plug it into the new trans and tcu, is that correct?

sorry for writing a book but i tried to explain my uestions as best as i could, oncce again thank you very much for taking the time and sharing your experties. and thanks everyone for the warm welcome.

 

[CKLclive]

Hi and welcome, very interesting conversion was thinking of doing the same to mine sometime

 

[BlackC55]

Just one quick question.

Do you have acess to a Star?

 

[vipclk320]

I dont but my mechanic that is doing the swap does. he is doing the swap but he is used to doing straight swaps that you just replace the complete setup including the body harness, but i really dont want to replace my body harness. There are two canbuses that go from the ecu to the inside of the car and behinde the dash but i have no idea where they plug into inside.

 

[BlackC55]

I really think you are going to struggle with this conversion. Because of wiring issues such as CAN. All the control units transmit via CAN. I need to have a think about it....!

 

[vipclk320]

do you by any chance know the two canbused cables that come out of the ecu and go through the fire wall and inside the car, what do they plug into?

also for the newer shifter conversion with tiptronics, what is the wiring order, is it shifter to trans to the TCU or is it shifter to TCU and then to trans/ or is there another component that is also involved?