Fog lights are not just for Christmas.

[Antharro]

Since the dip beam and the fog light take the same bulb...I'm not sure how the foglights can have a greater brightness.

Same bulb they may be but they do appear to be brighter. Maybe it's a lens thing - it's certainly a wider beam than dip and may appear to be brighter because it's more dazzling.

There is a lot of nonsense spoken about lights...this adds to it.

Sorry, I think you're out of order there. What I said was based on personal experience. I may be wrong about the bulb wattages but I think it's a bit harsh to call it "nonsense".

Let people drive with their fogs...who cares? Most only get annoyed because they are illegal...not because they are blinded or any other reason.

Actually I get annoyed because as I said in my previous post, because there is no requirement to have them aligned as per main headlights, they can be dazzling. And even if they are aligned, incorrect use in poor road conditions can cause dazzling through reflection or glare. That they are illegal is secondary, imo - I only know one person who has been pulled over for driving with them on.

I think the attitude of some drivers towards them is very poor - I had a chat with someone years ago when I worked in a Texaco. I mentioned he had his front fogs on and police were in the area so he may want to turn them off. His response? (Paraphrased) "Oh, I always drive with them on. My headlights get covered in flies and dirt on the motorway so I turn the fogs on. I know it blinds other drivers but I need to see."

 

[renault12ts]

There is a lot of nonsense about...if a foglight points down to the ground...people will still jump up and down with indignation, even though they are not effected one iota.

 

[timskemp]

Since the dip beam and the fog light take the same bulb...I'm not sure how the foglights can have a greater brightness.

There is a lot of nonsense spoken about lights...this adds to it.

Let people drive with their fogs...who cares? Most only get annoyed because they are illegal...not because they are blinded or any other reason.

AS ABOVE, AT WHAT AGE DO YOU GET ANNOYED ABOUT INSIGNIFICANCE?

Dip and main beam have the same lamp in many cars. It's not the power it's the beam shape that stops the annoyance.

Front fog lamps should be a low, wide beam, from low on the car so the water droplets don't reflect the light back to the driver, and they illuminate the edges of the road.

 

[renault12ts]

Dip and main beam have the same lamp in many cars. It's not the power it's the beam shape that stops the annoyance.

Front fog lamps should be a low, wide beam, from low on the car so the water droplets don't reflect the light back to the driver, and they illuminate the edges of the road.

Indeed...so why do so many people say they are dazzled by them...they aren't, they just enjoy a good moan.

 

[Tinck]

Actually, they are just for Christmas. I bought a replacement nearside one for my w204 estate last Christmas, and as its such a git to fit, still haven't fitted it.

Best thing is the bulb still works will no lens and has done all year... They come on and off as courtesy lights..!!!

 

[Antharro]

Front fog lamps should be a low, wide beam, from low on the car so the water droplets don't reflect the light back to the driver, and they illuminate the edges of the road.

Indeed...so why do so many people say they are dazzled by them...they aren't, they just enjoy a good moan.

Because so many cars out there have fog lights that do not have a "low, wide beam". A lot of cars have fogs that are out of alignment and can well dazzle other drivers, just as an incorrectly aligned headlight can do. But as there's no requirement to have them properly aligned they never get fixed and that's what causes the annoyance. (As well as people who don't like them being on on the principal that they're not supposed to be on unless it's foggy!)