Formula 1 2025

[neilrr]

Hamilton, pissed off.

Lewis Hamilton tells Ferrari boss Fred Vasseur 'don't be so sensitive' after radio dispute during Miami GP

Lewis Hamilton became frustrated during a radio exchange with his Ferrari team during the Miami Grand Prix; Hamilton felt the team were too slow in deciding to let him pass team-mate Charles Leclerc; Ferrari pair finished seventh and eighth in latest disappointing showing

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[CharlesM96]

I agree. Lando has allowed Max to get in his head!

He was quite despondent after the race I thought when saying people complain whatever he does. Hopefully as the season progresses he can block the external noise a bit. He isn’t wrong however in what he said, easy to end up in the wall racing Max!

 

[GeeJayW]

Hamilton, pissed off.

Lewis Hamilton tells Ferrari boss Fred Vasseur 'don't be so sensitive' after radio dispute during Miami GP

Lewis Hamilton became frustrated during a radio exchange with his Ferrari team during the Miami Grand Prix; Hamilton felt the team were too slow in deciding to let him pass team-mate Charles Leclerc; Ferrari pair finished seventh and eighth in latest disappointing showing

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Ferrari have for some years, been found lacking in strategic agility during races which was fully illustrated yesterday. Hamilton’s radio comments are a reflection of his frustration with the treacle-like decision making process within the team. Fred shouldn’t be happy with the critique, but he should value it because therein lies significant improvements.

 

[GeeJayW]

He was quite despondent after the race I thought when saying people complain whatever he does. Hopefully as the season progresses he can block the external noise a bit. He isn’t wrong however in what he said, easy to end up in the wall racing Max!

Lando did a great job of avoiding Max in Turn 2 and having lost places, did an excellent job of recovering to 2nd place. Oscar again demonstrated that he has an edge, played Max into Turn 1 and then scampered off. Max wasn’t going to fall for that twice, so Lando had to get the job done somewhere else, Turn 11.

 

[HappytalkAgain]

‘Carlos is 1.4 behind’

‘Oh? You want me to let him through too???’

 

[TC350]

 

[st13phil]

Ferrari have for some years, been found lacking in strategic agility during races which was fully illustrated yesterday. Hamilton’s radio comments are a reflection of his frustration with the treacle-like decision making process within the team. Fred shouldn’t be happy with the critique, but he should value it because therein lies significant improvements.

Fred argued that they needed time to work out whether Ham's pace was due to his different tyre choice or that he was within DRS range of Le Clerc. While they were working that out, Ham was losing the best of his medium tyres, so it forced a situation that probably wouldn't have existed had they acted sooner.

A classic "we always act in the best interest of Ferrari as a team" opportunity-wasting strategy blunder for which they've become renowned.

 

[GeeJayW]

Fred argued that they needed time to work out whether Ham's pace was due to his different tyre choice or that he was within DRS range of Le Clerc. While they were working that out, Ham was losing the best of his medium tyres, so it forced a situation that probably wouldn't have existed had they acted sooner.

A classic "we always act in the best interest of Ferrari as a team" opportunity-wasting strategy blunder for which they've become renowned.

Yep.

 

[st13phil]

Yep.

I'm not a race strategist, just a bloke who watches races, but I really don't understand why Ferrari hesitated as it looked to be a "no lose" situation if they'd swapped cars as soon as Ham was on the tail of Le Clerc.

If Ham's pace was genuinely faster in clean air then he would have closed up on Kimi and given Charles the opportunity for a bit of a tow in the process, putting them both closer to the potential for a higher position finish. If, on the other hand, it turned out that Ham's greater pace was down to DRS behind Charles (because Charles was genuinely quicker in clean air) they could have swapped back as neither would have had the capability to close on Kimi and neither were under serious threat from Carlos at the time.

What am I missing?

 

[HappytalkAgain]

I'm not a race strategist, just a bloke who watches races, but I really don't understand why Ferrari hesitated as it looked to be a "no lose" situation if they'd swapped cars as soon as Ham was on the tail of Le Clerc.

If Ham's pace was genuinely faster in clean air then he would have closed up on Kimi and given Charles the opportunity for a bit of a tow in the process, putting them both closer to the potential for a higher position finish. If, on the other hand, it turned out that Ham's greater pace was down to DRS behind Charles (because Charles was genuinely quicker in clean air) they could have swapped back as neither would have had the capability to close on Kimi and neither were under serious threat from Carlos at the time.

What am I missing?

Even more odd was when the team told Charles that Lewis would let him back through at turn 15. Unfortunately they didn’t tell Lewis.

 

[GeeJayW]

I'm not a race strategist, just a bloke who watches races, but I really don't understand why Ferrari hesitated as it looked to be a "no lose" situation if they'd swapped cars as soon as Ham was on the tail of Le Clerc.

If Ham's pace was genuinely faster in clean air then he would have closed up on Kimi and given Charles the opportunity for a bit of a tow in the process, putting them both closer to the potential for a higher position finish. If, on the other hand, it turned out that Ham's greater pace was down to DRS behind Charles (because Charles was genuinely quicker in clean air) they could have swapped back as neither would have had the capability to close on Kimi and neither were under serious threat from Carlos at the time.

What am I missing?

I’m not a race strategist either. I think Ferrari hesitated (again) because their operating processes are reactive.

In my view, a racing team should always know the pace and performance potential of their own cars in real-time and be fully across possible strategic options in anticipation of race developments. They should also have a very good estimate of the current and potential pace of other cars. All this of course will be going on, but to the casual observer (ie. us), it’s like Ferrari only started to figure things out when asked.

I thought it was clear that on fresh Mediums, Lewis had a second or so over Charles and that advantage was wasted.

 

[GeeJayW]

Didn't go today, but had considered it. Glad we didn't...

Truly gutted for those lost today and wish the very best for all concerned...

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