Formula 1 Predictions

[glojo]

Just a quick polite reminder to ask folks NOT to post qualifying times until AFTER we actually watch it on TV ........ please

Regards
John

 

[scumbag]

prediction.

1st JPM
2nd Kimi
3rd Button,

alonso to not finish.

carnage when some of the back markers think they stand a chance and stop looking in the mirrors.

Schumi Snr 4th.
Schumi Jnr out of F1 at end of seasons for being rubbish.

Fisi to have pit stop problems.

hmmmmmm. I hope button wins, just to keep the flag flying, and McLaren are thinking that Williams are doing very well. so it would be nice to see them do well too. Might help Max get over his unacceptable tirades against the manufacturers in favour of independants.

 

[glojo]

Fisi to have pit stop problems..

The Renault strategy is going to be interesting with Fisichella on pole, problems in the pit lane as per Irvine’s pit crew only having three wheels available for the car might cause the necessary hold-up??

The team that has really impressed me is Williams. Obviously the number two driver is a revelation, but this team is merely a Cosworth customer, hopefully they will go onto bigger things.

Here’s one for Mr E
I am still curious about the name of the BMW team. It always used to be the constructors name, followed by engine manufacturer. I accept that BMW is the constructor and it would sound silly to have the title BMW – BMW, thus we have Ferrari. To call the team BMW – Sauber is perhaps wrong. Sauber does not make the engine, nor does it design the chassis? I accept Sauber used to own the team and might still be a major partner, but if the rules state… Constructor – Engine manufacturer then that is how it should be BAR Honda?

Talking of Honda
He’s back……

For 2006, the Honda Racing F1 Team asked 82 year old Murray Walker if he would like to join the team and make a return to the sport he adores in the unique role of team ambassador. As a fully integrated member of the team, he will provide Honda’s VIP guests with an insight into the team’s progress and entertain them with his inimitable brand of F1 commentary. The much loved star will attend half of the season’s 18 Grands Prix and will make his debut in Honda Racing F1 Team colours when the F1 circus returns to Europe in April.

Bye for now,
John

 

[wallingd]

Come on Rossy !

He'l b WC next year you watch.

Think I finalyl got the point of the final 20 min qual today, but 20 mins seems a long time just to 'burn off fuel'...

 

[glojo]

Come on Rossy !

He'l b WC next year you watch.

Think I finalyl got the point of the final 20 min qual today, but 20 mins seems a long time just to 'burn off fuel'...

It also got a tad more confusing when you can drive slower than race pace, yet get race pace fuel compensation. Drive to slow though and you loose that slow lap of fuel??

At the last lot of testing Rossi was complaining, but hopefully he is lulling the opposition into a false sense of security.

I thought Edwards was brilliant when he won the BMW convertible, but I was very surprised to see Rossi come off the bike TWICE!!!

John

 

[PJH]

Doh!! Every 'th' was typed 'ht'... Stupid keyboard

Nothing wrong with my typing.

John

John, try the

button.

 

[glojo]

John, try the

button.

Now you want me to learn the alphabet???

 

[blassberg]

John

sorry m8 - don't look at the F1 Live thread

 

[scumbag]

]I am still curious about the name of the BMW team. It always used to be the constructors name, followed by engine manufacturer. I accept that BMW is the constructor and it would sound silly to have the title BMW – BMW, thus we have Ferrari. To call the team BMW – Sauber is perhaps wrong. Sauber does not make the engine, nor does it design the chassis? I accept Sauber used to own the team and might still be a major partner, but if the rules state… Constructor – Engine manufacturer then that is how it should be

The team is known as BMW-Sauber for marketing as was BMW-Williams.

but the score sheet will be written as Sauber BMW as does the team entry!

in other words, the F1 entry of Sauber-BMW will be known on press releases as BMW-Sauber.

Honda cannot be known as BAR Honda as BAR is cigs. thats why Ferrari isn't known as Marlboro ferrari!

By keeping sauber as a name allows the team to sell it on with a known name altho i dont know why BMW thought this was a good idea. i can only think it is to circumvent the Max/Bernie manufacturer problems.

strange how having Honda and renault in F1 and then Mercedes alongside Ferrari for the last 26years has made the current F1 what it is and yet the 2 people in charge dont want them in it! (For those struggling to understand my thoughts here, look at the constructors championship winners since 1980 after the FISA/FOCA wars)

 

[glojo]

Honda cannot be known as BAR Honda as BAR is cigs. thats why Ferrari isn't known as Marlboro ferrari!

I think you are confirming my point, the official title has always been the engine supplier is the second part of the name.

I am trying to think back to when Ferrari were referred to as a cigarette manufacturer then Ferrari as the second part.

Gold-Leaf Team Lotus!! Happy days... McLaren-BRM

John

 

[PJH]

..., the official title has always been the engine supplier is the second part of the name.

John

Williams F1 became BMW-Williams because BMW put in a LOT of money.
Incidently about 15-20 years ago, Williams were sponsored by Bin Laden Construction Company.

 

[glojo]

Williams F1 became BMW-Williams because BMW put in a LOT of money.
Incidently about 15-20 years ago, Williams were sponsored by Bin Laden Construction Company.

I checked the official listings and they were...........

hang on just off to check......

1986 20 years ago Williams-Honda

1991 15 years ago Williams-Renault

1999
Williams-Supertec
2000
Williams-BMW
2001
Williams-BMW
2002
Williams-BMW
2003
Williams-BMW

Then to explain my point about engine supplier

2004
Ferrari
BAR-Honda
Renault
Williams-BMW
McLaren-Mercedes
Sauber-Petronas
Jaguar-Cosworth
Toyota
Jordan-Ford
Minardi-Cosworth

2005
Renault
McLaren-Mercedes
Ferrari
Toyota
Williams-BMW
BAR-Honda
RBR-Cosworth
Sauber-Petronas
Jordan-Toyota
Minardi-Cosworth

2006
Renault
Ferrari
McLaren-Mercedes
Honda
Williams-Cosworth
Sauber-BMW
Toyota
RBR-Ferrari
STR-Cosworth
MF1-Toyota
Super Aguri-Honda

These listings and the wording is from the official site.

Scumbag has raised a valid point and perhaps media manipulation, or 'marketing' are trying to over-ride the standard, official recoginised format?

My information was obtained from the official F1 site.

Regards,
John

 

[lotusmark2]

I'm not so sure, I'll stick my neck out on this one and say 3rd is as good as Mclaren will do this weekend

Ok have to say told ya so.... just not up to it this weekend.
to finish first...first you have to finish

 

[glojo]

What is the take on the 'wings' issue and any protests from the other teams?

John

 

[scumbag]

the wings, it seems, are flexing in the higher speed areas. but it maybe that the wings are doing a controlled flex that suggests that are lowing the drag level at higher speed so the car can get more speed and still gain more downforce at the lower speeds.

this means its moveable aerodynamic aids and thats not allowed. or some such wording.

both rear and front wings on ferrari have been investigated. but according to some rumours more than 1 other team has been looked at. Am not sure how much it flexes, as the TV pictures just kind of showed wobbleying about.

 

[scumbag]

Scumbag has raised a valid point and perhaps media manipulation, or 'marketing' are trying to over-ride the standard, official recoginised format?

just mentioning the fact that Williams F1 site used to be BWM-Williams while BMW had the input. from 88-92 at least, it was CANON Williams Renault.

dont think this link will work nowadays http://www.bmw.williamsf1.com

before that is was CANON williams honda etc. in defference to the major sponsor. just like West McLaren Mercedes.

I still dont see why BMW Sauber have kept the Sauber link.

cant imagine an M5R Sauber in the same ilk as Mercedes SLR McLaren etc.

Durex once spnsored a McLaren.

 

[scumbag]

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I am trying to think back to when Ferrari were referred to as a cigarette manufacturer then Ferrari as the second part.


John

they never did. it was always Marlboro McLaren. it wasn't until 1997 that Marlboro went into Ferrari at a larger level and by then it wasn't healthy to advertise so i think Philip Morris just went for putting the brand on the car. If you remember, the McLarens were fag packet colours.

Heres one. cooper-climax! i wonder if anyone thought that was a barrel maker arriving????

 

[PJH]

Originally Posted by glojo

Scumbag has raised a valid point and perhaps media manipulation, or 'marketing' are trying to over-ride the standard, official recoginised format?

Yes true, whatever THEY want to call the team, we know which one we mean.

 

[glojo]

just mentioning the fact that Williams F1 site used to be BWM-Williams while BMW had the input. from 88-92 at least, it was CANON Williams Renault.

before that is was CANON williams honda etc. in defference to the major sponsor. just like West McLaren Mercedes..

You are confirming again my point. The engine manufacturer goes last. Canon Williams-Honda. I cannot explain your reference to the BWM??? Williams, that is wrong. It should be Williams-BMW or BWM

Nigel Mansell invited me up to his Golf Club way before it was opened up to a Formula 1 type area. He actually has his old Williams Honda (with engine)


The front wing of the Ferrai was interesting with the inner connection fully exposed. The rear wing was simply flexing, which is what got McLaren into a whole heap of doo doo's for.

McLaren is the second suspect team, but I believe they only have the suspect rear wing, but stand to be corrected. I am making these observations to stimulate discussions, hopefully the protests will go ahead?

Ferrari have agreed to scrap their 'flexy' rear wing ahead of the Australian Grand Prix following a quiet word from the FIA.

The FIA were forced into action regarding the Italian outfit's rather flexible, and therefore illegal, rear wing after receiving a letter of protest from Ferrari's rivals. Eight teams are believed to have signed the letter, with Red Bull, who use Ferrari engines, and Toro Rosso, RBR's B-team, the only exceptions.

According to reports, Ferrari have now conceded that they had misinterpreted the regulations governing the cars' wings and had assured their rivals that they would use modified wings at the next race, the Australian GP.

And in return, the eight teams have agreed not to protest the outcome of today's Malayasian GP, which they had threatened to do prior to Ferrari's compliance.

The FIA have also committed to do a thorough check on whatever wing the Italian outfit brings to Melbourne in two week's time.

 

[scumbag]

. It should be Williams-BMW or BWM

Nick Hidefelt! called them BRM today. B****** Rubbish Motors. something Merc owners have known for a long time? I mean, how many championships have BMW won? obviously discounting anything in the DTM or the McLaren F1 car, and in fact, anything else BMW have been involved with as it happens.

just loading it all in my favour!