Hamilton to join Mercedes

[Bellow]

I would think Massa's days are numbered. Bet Kimi stays with lotus.(if not back to Ferrari)

But I don't think Alonso will accept anyone else. Ferrari are apparently delighted with what he has achieved with the car so on the face of it, Alonso gets to keep Massa. Except...Kimi would have what it takes to get himself back in the Ferrari camp. (Wasn't his rallying a Fiat affair too?)
The Lotus has been a surprise, but Kimi still needs a better car/team.

 

[8maverick4]

I would think Massa's days are numbered. Bet Kimi stays with lotus.(if not back to Ferrari)

I'm not sure where I see Kimi going, he had a less than joyous split with Ferrari and spent so long being frustrated at the helm of an under performing McLaren that I can't see him rushing back to either team.

I think Renault / Lotus suits him. Relaxed team that lets him get on with driving and doesn't pressure him into the PR stuff he hates. They just need to feed him a victory now and then to keep him content.

Good point by someone re the impending 2014 regs. A lot of drivers will be manoeuvring towards the teams they think will crack the new turbo engines for then. I wonder if McLaren will strike out on their own with a McLaren built power plant?

 

[brucemillar]

I have a feeling that Ferrari will want to see if Alonso can win the championship this year before they really look to commit to their line up. They are still the team that every F1 driver wants to drive for at some point in their career so hold an enviable position.

You have to wonder what Button is wishing for. I think if Mclaren could get the qualifying performance right for his driving then he would be stonking away this season.

 

[Bellow]

I'm not sure where I see Kimi going, he had a less than joyous split with Ferrari and spent so long being frustrated at the helm of an under performing McLaren that I can't see him rushing back to either team.

Not that acrimonious though. I think Kimi's contract was bought out on terms favourable enough for him and then with Fiat for his rallying. Even if I'm wrong, time passes and if he looks like he could help them in their aims, well, memories can be short...

I think Renault / Lotus suits him. Relaxed team that lets him get on with driving and doesn't pressure him into the PR stuff he hates. They just need to feed him a victory now and then to keep him content.

For sure at the start of the season. But deep down he wants to win.

. I wonder if McLaren will strike out on their own with a McLaren built power plant?

Now that, hadn't occured to me at all. But LH would know. The plot does thicken.

 

[8maverick4]

Reading Sky Sports F1 News & BBC F1 News websites. Hamiltons management have stated the Mercedes rumours are untrue and that he is at an 'advanced stage' in his talks with McLaren.

I think that McLaren, knowing how easily distracted Lewis can be, might seal a deal in Monza to get him focused back onto chasing the championship.

 

[Paul/]

Ferrari need someone better than Massa for them to compete for the CC- glad they've been loyal to him to give him a chance since his accident, but looks now that it has affected hiim, psychologically.

But would need to be someone who could accept being treated as clear#2, perhaps Di Resta or Perez?

 

[grober]

Watching the BBC coverage of the Belgian GP I noticed mention of Paul DiResta looking for a new manager. Wasn't Antony Hamilton his manager? Anything to be gleaned from that? A reconciliation between Hamilton Jnr and Snr?

Paul DiResta's name has been linked informally with Richard Goddard who just so happens to manage Jenson Button. Di Resta is currently in contractual dispute with Antony Hamilton so that budding " relationship" may not come to light just yet. Mercedes are keen to have a driver with a high international "media presence" and Hamilton ticks all the boxes. In the end to the cynical observer it may be all to do with "moving product" not winning races. F1 " pensioner" Michael Schumacher may be regarded by the marketing moguls as no longer appealing to the correct "demographic".

 

[Dr-Nab]

Now that, hadn't occured to me at all. But LH would know. The plot does thicken.

I'd doubt that very much re. McLaren power plants, the only teams producing V6 turbo power plants are Mercedes, Ferrari and Renault. PURE have stopped production of theirs and Cosworth aren't bothering as of yet.

There was an opportunity when BMW left the sport for McLaren to buy the engine facilities from and go it alone but they opted against it, I think it was pretty wise given the massive costs involved with developing a reliable formula one engine. But at the same time, if it was feasible then they should have gone ahead with.

 

[brucemillar]

I like DiResta. Comes across as a genuine next door kind of guy. That may be his downfall. Schumacher, Alonso, Senna. Selfish as hell in the car and who gives a **** out of it.

Just saw Zannardi again on the news. Supreme effort from a really really nice guy. If you want to know why say yes an I will bore you with the story.

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[Bellow]

Does anyone know anything more about the engines to be used in 2014. My sum total knowledge is: that they were going to be four cylinder units - until Audi decided they weren't going to compete after all - at which point 1.6litre V6 was announced as the mandatory fitment.
Will they be boost limited, rev limited, etc? And how many manufacturers? And who? The big outfits, eg MB, or specialists (not involved directly in passenger car production)?

 

[Bellow]

I like DiResta. Comes across as a genuine next door kind of guy. That may be his downfall. Schumacher, Alonso, Senna. Selfish as hell in the car and who gives a **** out of it.

You've clearly missed Di Restas steel.

Just saw Zannardi again on the news. Supreme effort from a really really nice guy. If you want to know why say yes an I will bore you with the story.

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Say yes to the man who says 'no' to everything? Nah.

 

[brucemillar]

Bellow. Ferrari are still putting the finishing touches to the engine rules. Once they Bernie has their approval. Blah blah.

All I hear is V6 turbo.

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[8maverick4]

I'd doubt that very much re. McLaren power plants, the only teams producing V6 turbo power plants are Mercedes, Ferrari and Renault. PURE have stopped production of theirs and Cosworth aren't bothering as of yet.

There was an opportunity when BMW left the sport for McLaren to buy the engine facilities from and go it alone but they opted against it, I think it was pretty wise given the massive costs involved with developing a reliable formula one engine. But at the same time, if it was feasible then they should have gone ahead with.

True re the BMW deal. Its always a possibility in the future now that they are producing their own road car engines.

 

[brucemillar]

So many years ago at Brands. Zannardi in qualifying lost the car at Dingle Dell. He removed all four corners, then the engine, gearbox and front end before coming to rest in just the tub right under where me and my Son were hanging over the fence. He climbed out, took of his helmet and gloves, looked up directly at us. Noticing my Son had a programme in his hand he asked for a look at it. Turned to the page with his picture. Looked at what was left of his car then at my son and said that is what it should look like now I have to go and explain. Asked of we had a pen. Signed the photo got on the back of a scooter, waved, smiled and left. My son now in his 30's still dines out on that. Cool did not describe it. Charming and absolutely lovely guy.

His win today and attitude with it are inspirational.

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[grober]

http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/A0425C3A0A7D69C0C12578D3002EBECA/$FILE/2014_F1_TECHNICAL_REGULATIONS_-_Published_on_20.07.pdf


oops see http://www.fia.com/en-GB/sport/regulations/Pages/FIAFormulaOneWorldChampionship.aspx

 

[8maverick4]

Does anyone know anything more about the engines to be used in 2014. My sum total knowledge is: that they were going to be four cylinder units - until Audi decided they weren't going to compete after all - at which point 1.6litre V6 was announced as the mandatory fitment.
Will they be boost limited, rev limited, etc? And how many manufacturers? And who? The big outfits, eg MB, or specialists (not involved directly in passenger car production)?

1.6 litre V6 Turbo limited to 15,000rpm. Additional energy recovery via exhaust gases being considered but not approved.

Being a die-hard McLaren fan, I have great memories of the last year the turbo's ran in 1988!

 

[8maverick4]

Bellow. Ferrari are still putting the finishing touches to the engine rules. Once they Bernie has their approval. Blah blah.

All I hear is V6 turbo.

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FIA. Ferrari International Assistance.

 

[Paul/]

£60m Lewis bid: Mercedes ready to break bank for Hamilton to replace Schumacher... or Rosberg


Read more: Lewis Hamilton: Mercedes ready to offer £60m to replace Michael Schumacher or Nico Rosberg | Mail Online​

 

[Red C220]

Let him go, his Ego is fast outgrowing his (very vast) ability.

McLaren would be a more stable team without him.

Button - Kimi would be a great combination.

 

[Paul/]

FIA. Ferrari International Assistance.

Ah, the golden era of Schumacher & Brawn- FORZA FERRARI!

But I won't begrudge Mercedes if their time comes again.