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Hamilton to join Mercedes

I have just read this story and it may be true... As a big fan of the boy, he does not do himself any favours at times...

One thing for sure is if MB dont sort out their car for 2013, he will be feeling like a muppet at the back of the grid...
 
Paul/ said:
Ah, the golden era of Schumacher & Brawn- FORZA FERRARI! :rock:

But I won't begrudge Mercedes if their time comes again.

It took them three years at Ferrari to be able win a championship - they should have won in 1999 without MS's broken leg. Admittedly they got close in 1997 but that was more about Williams dropping the ball with H-HF.

Would be good to see Mercedes consistently at the front. I'd be chuffed if Schuey bowed out with one last win, but can't quite see it.
 
It took them three years at Ferrari to be able win a championship - they should have won in 1999 without MS's broken leg. Admittedly they got close in 1997 but that was more about Williams dropping the ball with H-HF.

Would be good to see Mercedes consistently at the front. I'd be chuffed if Schuey bowed out with one last win, but can't quite see it.

They would have won in 1999 if Schumacher had allowed them...he didn't so they messed up a vital tyre change on Eddie Irvine's car.
 
They would have won in 1999 if Schumacher had allowed them...he didn't so they messed up a vital tyre change on Eddie Irvine's car.

IIRC they messed up several tyre changes at several races just to make sure..
 
I like DiResta. Comes across as a genuine next door kind of guy. That may be his downfall. Schumacher, Alonso, Senna. Selfish as hell in the car and who gives a **** out of it.

Exactly how I see Hamilton. I may not like the guy and doubt very much i would get on with him as a person...but as a driver, he has something about him, which makes him potentially one of the greats.

I feel McLaren have made most of the errors this season and he has driven what could potentially be his best season yet.
Under-fuelling car, shocking pit stops, pit boards falling apart, the list is endless...
 
Monza Hamilton P1 Button P2 Mclaren,Mclaren. why go anywhere else??
 
Nothing against Jenson but I want Lewis to win.
 
1st to Lewis :-).

Yes i know he can be a bit of an ****, Yes he can drive recklessly, and yes he is dating a pussycat doll ;-), but he is a more superior driver than Button and this is clearly obvious...
 
1st to Lewis :-).

Yes i know he can be a bit of an ****, Yes he can drive recklessly, and yes he is dating a pussycat doll ;-), but he is a more superior driver than Button and this is clearly obvious...

Not last week it wasn't.
 
1st to Lewis :-).

Yes i know he can be a bit of an ****, Yes he can drive recklessly, and yes he is dating a pussycat doll ;-), but he is a more superior driver than Button and this is clearly obvious...

No he isn't.

They are very different in style and attitude.

Was Buttons last race poor then?
 
1st to Lewis :-).

Yes i know he can be a bit of an ****, Yes he can drive recklessly, and yes he is dating a pussycat doll ;-), but he is a more superior driver than Button and this is clearly obvious...

Sounds like something one of the fanboys would come out with on PlanetF1.

He's just not a superior package.
 
1st to Lewis :-).

Yes i know he can be a bit of an ****, Yes he can drive recklessly, and yes he is dating a pussycat doll ;-), but he is a more superior driver than Button and this is clearly obvious...

Lot's would disagree with you on this including Ross Brawn who is a self confessed Lewis fan. Brawn has been quoted as saying that Button is one of in not the best driver in F1. He is deceptively fast making the car look easy to drive. and his engineering input is fantastic. Watch Button on the on-board camera. Very little steering input as he sets the car up perfectly for the corners. Look at him last week lap after lap at almost identical speeds... Flawless. As C55 says. Different style to Hamilton who has only ever been tested in one team and that is a team that was built around him. He is very very quick indeed in that car.
 
Hamilton would be nuts to join Mercedes. Only reason surely could be more money? Surely, he has enough money and is not badly paid @ McLaren.... McLaren are the team that can take him to more drivers crowns, sadly I dont think Mercedes are in the position just yet.
 
In sheer speed he is superior...
He ranks as one of the top 3 drivers alongside Vettel and Alonso...

Seems all the Button fans are only reading this post....!

;-)
 
I question some of the decisions Lewis makes with regards to strategy and his behaviour but can't deny he is fast, very fast in the McLaren because he just drives the wheels off the thing.

Button is much more precise and a lot smoother with the car so can be more consistent with his pace (all down to the set up of the car) which is probably why Button is so much better than everyone else under changing race conditions - wet to dry etc. Over one lap Lewis is quicker but one lap pace doesn't score you consistent points - look at the final standings last season.

To me, Alonso is the best driver in F1. Look at how his input turned around the McLaren team in 07 from the donkey of a car they had in 06 when they lost Adrian Newey. Now look at how he's turning Ferrari around with a "poor" car he still produces and scores points.

Lewis can go to Mercedes to build his brand, make more money or whatever it is he is expecting. McLaren will continue to win races even if he does leave, it is what they do. One of the stipulations in his contract is to retain original trophies - who is he kidding? It is a long standing McLaren tradition to retain the trophies at the MTC so he's having a laugh if he expects them to heed to that.
 
Only strategic move would be if you knew for certain Mercedes had some huge development advantage in the pipeline say engine wise for 2013/2014 which would potentially make them unstoppable against the opposition.--- although I find that unlikely-- maybe it is just "the money" ! ;)
 
Even when there’s been open animosity between drivers, I don't recall any other pair of team-mates consistently receiving such opposing and passionate expressions of opinion (perhaps between Lewis and Fernando was close, but as only 1 was British, the commentary was more one-side in this country). I think this will follow Lewis wherever he goes- he’s a troubled prodigy who polarises opinion between those that see him as a selfish upstart in a generally gentlemanly culture, and those who regard him as wearing his heart on his sleeve, a breath of fresh blowing away the cobwebs of a stuffy gentleman’s club.
So the debate (in the wider world- not specifically this forum) is in part fuelled by sympathy/empathy with either the charming but reserved “British” characteristics perceived in Jenson and the brash go-getter “American” characteristics perceived in Lewis. I guess there are more long-term F1 fans in the former camp, and I’d bet more recent fans in the latter.

My personal view on Lewis is that I admire his talent and think his personality is in part a by-product of the environment which developed him as a driver, so good luck to him, but I want my team to have drivers who are doing it for the team, not drivers who regard the team as doing it for them.
 
In sheer speed he is superior...
He ranks as one of the top 3 drivers alongside Vettel and Alonso...

Seems all the Button fans are only reading this post....!

;-)


He's one of the top three fastest drivers in Formula1 right up until the pint he hits another car/gravel trap/wall/kerb......

That's the point, he is undoubtedly fast but he's not a complete package.

He has the same flaw Senna had. A flaw that Prost explained beautifully in the Senna movie.

He didn't just want to win, he wanted to humiliate every other driver especially his team mate, when the ultimate aim of the race is finish in front of everyone else.

It doesn't matter if you're half a car length or 6 laps in front, the result is the same.

Hammy hasn't understood that yet. If he ever does he could be an extremely good package. He doesn't quite understand how racing for 4th place is as important as racing for a win, and that sometimes 2nd or 3rd are outstanding results.

If you want an example of a fast driver that does this well, look no further than Alonso.
 
Rumour is that the deal is done but politely awaiting MSC's retirement announcement..
 

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