Headlight issue raising a head...

[brucemillar]

Wow.

Indeed.


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[DSM10000]

Actually, early 80's Ladas did not use halogen bulbs... I would rather have had a Skoda Rapid (note no "e" at the end...).Secondly, I was being "ironic" refering to 6v electrics...which were common on lower cc motorcycle some years ago....clearly something that you didn't understand....I am guessing that you are are attempting to being amusing...not. Don't get me going, I have been around vehicles for too long and have worked in the ROAD SAFETY business also too long (covering motorcycles, cars and commercial (24v)vehicles) and prior to that Avionics within the RAF.......) to start to enter into facile debate with closed minded individuals...as said, if I wanted to do that I would start with the supposed word "brexit".

A number of members here have tried to discuss your posts but each time you just come back and attack rather than debate.

I am fully aware of the early implementation and also the limitations of 6V electrics on vehicles and, if you are so expert then you can easily work out the current draw of a pair of 55w lights at both 6 and 12v and therefore should be able to understand why a simple wire and switch could not work or was that "ironic"? Your posts are not ironic, just poorly constructed as shown by your need to keep posting to explain / justify them. I was not attempting to be amusing just trying to untangle your poor syntax .

You are also conflating many items (you seem to have a thing about brexit and lighting, perhaps you need illumination on that? and, if you have worked in the "ROAD SAFETY" business you should be embracing areas where technology is proven to improve such matters not denigrating it as it is you that clearly has the closed mind.

All that your posts have shown on this subject is an arrogance when several others have politely challenged your views and an ignorance overall in your own "argument"

This Forum has been a pleasant place to be of late, what it does not need is some know it all keyboard warrior who tries to dictate what others may debate and who reacts like a child when they do not get exactly what they want and adds nothing of value to the overall ethos of the Forum as it stands.

Time to add you to the ignore list although as with all such types no doubt you will still dribble, vent and obfuscate on this and other topics, fortunately I will not see or read anymore of it.

 

[markjay]

They are crap.

You can either have the minimum at a low initial cost and low running costs, or you could have the better option which will cost more initially and also potentially cost more to run. Nothing wrong with either.

But the difficulty is that you only really get to choose if buy a new car....

If you buy a second hand car, you often end-up with Halogens when you want HID (or LED), or in this case the OP ended-up with HID while really wanting Halogens.

Since most of the cars I bought were second-hand (or, at best, nearly-new), I have learnt to live with the odd unwanted feature - it is nigh on impossible to find a second-hand car that ticks every single box on your wish list....

 

[190]

I would agree with the OP in that there was nothing wrong with the simplicity of Halogen technology within it's limitations and the maximum lumens allowed within the regulations. If you want more light and whiter light then halogens are not going to be good enough. I've had cars with halogen lights that were excellent although my current car isn't in that category. It's not just the bulb but the design of the lamp unit as a whole that counts.

Having driven home from Wales last night along country roads I can't say I'm a fan of all modern lighting. Even with my rear view mirror dipped some following cars were lighting up the whole of the inside of my car which reduced my visibility ahead. LEDs have to be the future and if high output lights are correctly designed and used maybe they are fine but I see too many examples where the race to have the brightest lights rather than the best lights is reducing safety instead of improving it. I can't help feeling that to some extent lighting has become a fashion statement in a similar way to ultra low profile tyres and functionality has not always been the priority.

 

[DSM10000]

I would agree with the OP in that there was nothing wrong with the simplicity of Halogen technology within it's limitations and the maximum lumens allowed within the regulations. If you want more light and whiter light then halogens are not going to be good enough. I've had cars with halogen lights that were excellent although my current car isn't in that category. It's not just the bulb but the design of the lamp unit as a whole that counts.

Indeed and agreed to a point although some vehicles are still poorly designed and can be extremely difficult to work on in terms of bulb replacement regardless of bulb type. LED lights with the inherent low current draw will take over as manufacturers strive to improve efficiency in all areas and especially in lowering the electrical draw in battery powered vehicles.

What I and several other members objected to in this thread was the increasingly arrogant and ignorant nature of the OP as the topic was discussed by others and the attempt to cloud matters by then claiming a different intent to those actually given by his own words or are we expected to be mind readers?

As said the Forum has been a remarkably calm and pleasant place of late, let us hope we proceed in to 2019 that way!