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HRH crash

What other issues do you think may absolve him of any blame?

How fast was the other car going,
Did its brakes work,
Was the driver incapacitated at the time...

There are so many variables that could answer your question - why the box?
 
How fast was the other car going,
Did its brakes work,
Was the driver incapacitated at the time...

There are so many variables that could answer your question - why the box?

You should put yourself up to defend HRH if it ever gets to court.
Already looking for a way out instead of just admitting responsibility like a good defence lawyer.

From today's Telegraph
On Thursday. Prince Philip pulled out from the B1439 road turning right onto the A149 directly into the path of an oncoming Kia travelling south.

The Kia crashed into the Land Rover’s driver’s side at speed, flipping the Prince’s car and sending it into a spin across the road.

The Kia veered off the road into a ditch in a similar direction.

The first sentence says it all for me.
No mention of excess speed or that the woman driving was over the DD limit which I'm sure would have been reported at the time.

Have a read of this and then tell me he wasn't to blame.
Prince Philip crash: Duke told witnesses 'I'm such a fool'[/quote]
 
The car had underinflated tyres and worn dampers - then lost a ball joint like a 124. Did the driver have a licence? MOT? So many variables that we just do not know about. The car's driver was on a cell phone, eating an ice cream that was dripping everywhere or even beating up the women next to her in the car. She just snorted a line of coke. She may have had a fit or a sneazing episode, SO MANY VARIABLES. Anybody who knows about accidents and root cause analysys knows there is never one cause, it is always an accumulation. You did ask so I am just letting you know...:)
 
If one of us had been involved in such an accident noone would bat an eyelid.

But because of who he is it's stab, stab, kill.
 
I'll share something with everyone; if it were me in that car I can virtually guarantee I WOULD NOT HAVE HIT THE LANDY. Why? Cause I am a bl00dy good driver, that's why!

Hopeless speller though. :):)

FWIW I wonder if he shot the gap and she had observation and reaction skills far less than average.
That or he didn't see her at all - which is normal in older men as the perifial vision goes.
 
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I'll share something with everyone; if it were me in that car I can virtually garentee I WOULD NOT HAVE HIT THE LANDY. Why? Cause I am a bl00dy good driver, that's why!

You do come out with some rubbish at times, but carry on. It's good for a laugh:D
 
If one of us had been involved in such an accident noone would bat an eyelid.

But because of who he is it's stab, stab, kill.

I only pointed out the lack of perceived interest in the real victims of this accident.
Nobody, least of all me is trying to do a hatchet job on HRH.
Just putting 2 and 2 together and making 4 unlike a few others who are ready to exonerate the man because of his age and who he is.
He has admitted he drove out of a side road and into the path of a car which had every right to be where it was because he didn't see them.
 
Police speak to elderly motorist over not wearing a seatbelt

Norfolk Police say they have spoken to the Duke of Edinburgh after he was pictured driving without a seatbelt, 48 hours after being involved in a crash near Sandringham in Norfolk.

A spokeswoman said "suitable words of advice have been given to the driver".

Meanwhile, Emma Fairweather, who broke her wrist in the crash, has told the Mirror the duke has not apologised.

...........................

Ms Fairweather told the Sunday Mirror that "I'm lucky to be alive and he hasn't even said sorry".

"It has been such a traumatic and painful time and I would have expected more of the Royal Family," she added.

She said she had not heard from the royal household but had got a call from a police family liaison officer.

"The message he passed on didn't even make sense. He said, 'The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh would like to be remembered to you,'" she said.

"That's not an apology or even a well-wish."
 
I'll even take you to the Club for a meal and a jar if you like...

https://www.pihabowlingclub.com/history

Given time I am pretty sure they will be come up with a more appropriate response.
 
Lock him up at her majesty’s pleasure...
 
If one of us had been involved in such an accident noone would bat an eyelid.

But because of who he is it's stab, stab, kill.

Maybe some can see through the PR machine and smoke & mirrors used to protect them no matter how they act, sometimes the underdog needs support.
Good example if you read all of this, Police speak to Philip for not wearing seatbelt, because apparently everyone is told he behaved like a gentlemen and offered a full apology when he did nothing of the sort.
 
Yes it does and the consequence of failure or not complying with the law costs us money and/or it is dangerous to society. Neither apply in this case and it is her Country. Can we say the Law has no place with Royalty other than to show the subjects we are all equal...which we aren't.


But it may also suggest they have little idea of the practicle things in life, the pragmatism of having to comply all the fing time to rules or concepts they think are a good idea but simply are not.

Harry is copping a swath of reality in this regard ATM. Good idea but it wasn't really was it Harry. Good idea to wear the seat belt but not really. Thank God they don't really believe in what they say I was starting to find myself questioning some stuff!

And FWIW this is not your land - you are permitted to use it but it is not yours, bit like money, it isn't yours, it is theirs and you are permitted to use it.
You make some valid points with which I can't really argue. What I can do is disagree in principle with the, IMHO absurdity of how this can still be the case in a modern democracy. I'm not actually vehemently anti-royal but when I'm reminded of these points by either pro-royal opinions or the behaviour of some of the royals then I do tend to swing nearer to being that way.
 
He's 97 years old, and was severely shaken up in a crash yesterday. I rather doubt he'd be driving again today.
"Something about a woman claiming he almost ran her off the road..."

Do give us more details, and the sources, won't you? Maybe post this picture your daughter has? Until then, I'm inclined to think a large pinch of salt
might be advisable.

You might have waited a few minutes before posting your reply, the internet had pictures of this everywhere if you'd looked, and the police say they have spoken to him about it too. Hope your pinch of salt tastes good!
 
Of course, his car might well roll several times if hit with considerable force by a speeding car... Doubtless you have evidence that Freelanders 'usually do end upside down after any collision', or is this just another assumption based on your interpretation of the evidence we have seen so far?

Sometimes the tendency on this forum to rush to judgement and assume the worst disappoints me, the more so in this case because the royal family is an easy target which, as a matter of policy, chooses not to make matters worse by commenting on the ill-informed or deliberately hostile speculation which inevitably surfaces when something which can be presented in a bad light happens.

There are hundreds of you tube videos of car crashes and invariably the ones involving 4X4's and SUV's result in the car on it's roof. I thought this was common knowledge? A high centre of gravity is the worst thing a car can have in any collision.
 
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You make some valid points with which I can't really argue. What I can do is disagree in principle with the, IMHO absurdity of how this can still be the case in a modern democracy. I'm not actually vehemently anti-royal but when I'm reminded of these points by either pro-royal opinions or the behaviour of some of the royals then I do tend to swing nearer to being that way.

If I lived in the UK I'd have very different feelings about things I am sure.
I think the opression in Britain through the class system is more than I could cope with, it's bad enough when they get here and try it on, let alone being in Britain having to endure it for your whole life.
 
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On the internet this morning it is reported that the passenger in the car that collided with HRH has told the Sunday Mirror: 'We could see the Land Rover about 150 yards away from us at the junction, then it started to move". She also says her friend "was doing no more than 50 mph". Stopping distance at 50 mph around 60 yards?

She's also disappointed the Queen hasn't phoned her yet to ask how she is.

I'm sure they're being hounded by the media but she's not helping her friend's case much.
 

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