HRH crash

[E55BOF]

To the Tower for us carpers

And your carp opinions...

I've not been 'mean spirited' in the slightest.

'Twas not you I had in mind; you do it to point up absurdities for comedic effect (as do I).

 

[alzieboy]

And your carp opinions...

Of Course your opinions are of a more subjective nature.



'Twas not you I had in mind; you do it to point up absurdities for comedic effect (as do I).[/QUOTE

And your carp opinions...



'Twas not you I had in mind; you do it to point up absurdities for comedic effect (as do I).[/QUOTE

 

[rf065]

My daughter just showed me photos of HRH, apparently taken today of him driving his replacement car without a seat belt!
Also, something about a woman coming forward claiming he almost ran her off the road minutes before his crash.

 

[Deleted member 6183]

My daughter just showed me photos of HRH, apparently taken today of him driving his replacement car without a seat belt!
Also, something about a woman coming forward claiming he almost ran her off the road minutes before his crash.

Treason!

 

[AMGeed]

I find the press coverage lamentable in that the Duke, totally unhurt, receives dozens of paragraphs of print yet the two women
(one with a broken wrist) and young child in the back of the Kia barely get a mention. Sycophantic doesn't come close.

It seems there is little doubt that Phil the Greek pulled out in front of the Kia due to being dazzled by the sun (he claims) and the sole responsibilty of the accident is his.
I hope he is now treated the same as the peasants and charged with careless/driving without due care and attention and is made to take a re test before continuing driving.
It would happen to anyone else of his age.

 

[geraldrobins]

I find the press coverage lamentable in that the Duke, totally unhurt, receives dozens of paragraphs of print yet the two women
(one with a broken wrist) and young child in the back of the Kia barely get a mention. Sycophantic doesn't come close.

It seems there is little doubt that Phil the Greek pulled out in front of the Kia due to being dazzled by the sun (he claims) and the sole responsibilty of the accident is his.
I hope he is now treated the same as the peasants and charged with careless/driving without due care and attention and is made to take a re test before continuing driving.
It would happen to anyone else of his age.

I think we need the police to investigate before jumping to conclusions. It does seem to be his fault but there are other things to take into account.

 

[AMGeed]

I think we need the police to investigate before jumping to conclusions. It does seem to be his fault but there are other things to take into account.

Not jumping to conclusions at all. He all but admitted it was his fault in the press reports.
If he pulled out of a sideroad into the path of the Kia it certainly wasn't the fault if the Kia driver unless you believe otherwise.

 

[geraldrobins]

Not jumping to conclusions at all. He all but admitted it was his fault in the press reports.
If he pulled out of a sideroad into the path of the Kia it certainly wasn't the fault if the Kia driver unless you believe otherwise.

I tend to think it was Philips fault but there may be other issues to consider.

 

[rf065]

Not jumping to conclusions at all. He all but admitted it was his fault in the press reports.
If he pulled out of a sideroad into the path of the Kia it certainly wasn't the fault if the Kia driver unless you believe otherwise.

The fact that his car rolled several times and ended up on the opposite side of the road which would require a lot of momentum, suggests that he did not stop and look when he came to the junction. The impact from the other car did not look to be much, so his momentum is the reason for rolling the car, that and the fact that Land Rovers are top heavy and usually do end upside down after any collision.

 

[Deleted member 6183]

I find the press coverage lamentable in that the Duke, totally unhurt, receives dozens of paragraphs of print yet the two women
(one with a broken wrist) and young child in the back of the Kia barely get a mention. Sycophantic doesn't come close.

It seems there is little doubt that Phil the Greek pulled out in front of the Kia due to being dazzled by the sun (he claims) and the sole responsibilty of the accident is his.
I hope he is now treated the same as the peasants and charged with careless/driving without due care and attention and is made to take a re test before continuing driving.
It would happen to anyone else of his age.

Fascinating.

This might be the first time that AMGeed and E55BOF have a differing opinion.

I assumed that they were the same person.

 

[markjay]

You seem to have missed the point.

It is unusual for the authority to take action the day after one incident.

I get that you are protective about the royal family and I've not been 'mean spirited' in the slightest.

BTW, did you get up to speed about the baby?

It was said on the BBC that the local Council claimed that the schedule for reducing the speed limit from 60 to 50 and implementing average speed camera was set months ago and had nothing to do with the crash.

What I did wonder about, is how did the reporters come across this information. I.e.... did someone from the palace's PR office 'mentioned' it to journalists? Definitely is gave the immpression that someone was implying that the womam driver was speeding... ahmm.

 

[AMGeed]

I tend to think it was Philips fault but there may be other issues to consider.

What other issues do you think may absolve him of any blame?

 

[geraldrobins]

The speed of the other car combined with the visibility perhaps. I don't know the road. The other thing that has been mentioned was did he pull out at the junction or just not stop at the junction.

 

[E55BOF]

My daughter just showed me photos of HRH, apparently taken today of him driving his replacement car without a seat belt!
Also, something about a woman coming forward claiming he almost ran her off the road minutes before his crash.

He's 97 years old, and was severely shaken up in a crash yesterday. I rather doubt he'd be driving again today.
"Something about a woman claiming he almost ran her off the road..."

Do give us more details, and the sources, won't you? Maybe post this picture your daughter has? Until then, I'm inclined to think a large pinch of salt
might be advisable.

 

[E55BOF]

Fascinating. This might be the first time that AMGeed and E55BOF have a differing opinion. I assumed that they were the same person.

Does Lewyboy make the same erroneous assumption?

 

[WDB124066]

I see and respect your point. I consider this country to be my land as well but law forbids me to not wear a seatbelt.

Yes it does and the consequence of failure or not complying with the law costs us money and/or it is dangerous to society. Neither apply in this case and it is her Country. Can we say the Law has no place with Royalty other than to show the subjects we are all equal...which we aren't.


But it may also suggest they have little idea of the practicle things in life, the pragmatism of having to comply all the fing time to rules or concepts they think are a good idea but simply are not.

Harry is copping a swath of reality in this regard ATM. Good idea but it wasn't really was it Harry. Good idea to wear the seat belt but not really. Thank God they don't really believe in what they say I was starting to find myself questioning some stuff!

And FWIW this is not your land - you are permitted to use it but it is not yours, bit like money, it isn't yours, it is theirs and you are permitted to use it.

 

[E55BOF]

The fact that his car rolled several times and ended up on the opposite side of the road which would require a lot of momentum, suggests that he did not stop and look when he came to the junction. The impact from the other car did not look to be much, so his momentum is the reason for rolling the car, that and the fact that Land Rovers are top heavy and usually do end upside down after any collision.

Of course, his car might well roll several times if hit with considerable force by a speeding car... Doubtless you have evidence that Freelanders 'usually do end upside down after any collision', or is this just another assumption based on your interpretation of the evidence we have seen so far?

Sometimes the tendency on this forum to rush to judgement and assume the worst disappoints me, the more so in this case because the royal family is an easy target which, as a matter of policy, chooses not to make matters worse by commenting on the ill-informed or deliberately hostile speculation which inevitably surfaces when something which can be presented in a bad light happens.

 

[E55BOF]

It was said on the BBC that the local Council claimed that the schedule for reducing the speed limit from 60 to 50 and implementing average speed camera was set months ago and had nothing to do with the crash.

What I did wonder about, is how did the reporters come across this information. I.e.... did someone from the palace's PR office 'mentioned' it to journalists? Definitely is gave the immpression that someone was implying that the womam driver was speeding... ahmm.

Reread post #60? Perhaps the BBC were just doing their homework to inform their reporting, and therefore asked the local council for a comment? It would not be unreasonable to do so in the circumstances.

 

[Deleted member 6183]

Does Lewyboy make the same erroneous assumption?

Again?

Bore off BOFF.

 

[E55BOF]

Distinct sense of deja vu? Still, if it makes you feel good...