Lovely s123

[michaelk3289]

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Absolutely love this

 

[C36fan]

What a stunner!!

 

[Palfrem]

Wow!

 

[219]

That car was local to me a couple of years back ; I bought some parts off the owner who was restoring it , after he broke another 250T he had bought for parts . He told me at the time he had two of the three 250T's in the UK !

Even then , he was pointing out imperfections in the car ( some of the anodised aluminium window surrounds , and the carpets which were awaiting replacement , to name two ) but it looked darn near perfect to me close up and in the metal .

I was surprised when he ended up selling it , and then this lot got it .

 

[jaymanek]

Lovely condition... not the best engine choice but cant have it all... I think if that were a 7 seater and a 230TE I would be snapping it up..

Not many truly nice original TE's or CE's around anymore.

 

[michaelk3289]

Lovely condition... not the best engine choice but cant have it all... I think if that were a 7 seater and a 230TE I would be snapping it up..

Not many truly nice original TE's or CE's around anymore.

Why is a 250 not as good as a 230?

 

[jaymanek]

The 250 and early 200 are the first engines...
They are carburetor engines, normally quiet noisy, not very powerful and desperately uneconomical.

The 230 and 280 were much much better engines.

 

[V12]

The 250 and early 200 are the first engines...
They are carburetor engines, normally quiet noisy, not very powerful and desperately uneconomical.

The 230 and 280 were much much better engines.

Δ what he said!!

 

[C36fan]

Δ what he said!!

I never seen a mercedes with carburettor ??!!

 

[V12]

I never seen a mercedes with carburettor ??!!

Then you haven't owned a Mercedes older than early 1980s!

 

[C36fan]

Then you haven't owned a Mercedes older than early 1980s!

you are right but worked in many and they were mechanical injection !

 

[jaymanek]

Yep even my 60's models both have injection...

but until mid 80's many of the smaller engines were carb..

 

[coalville126]

The Solex 4A1 carb on the 250 were awful. It seemed to run out of tune really quickly after a service which led to poor running, most unbecoming of a then fairly new car and like Jay said desperately uneconomical for the available performance.

Never quite understood why that was the only petrol engine offered on lwb W123s.

 

[stwat]

I never seen a mercedes with carburettor ??!!

A lorra Mercs had carbs even into the 90's. For example a 190 (W201) is a carb'd engine. So is a 200 (W124) The 190E and 200E are fuel injected. The 'E' stands for 'Einspritzung' the German word for injection.

 

[V12]

A lorra Mercs hard carbs even into the 90's. For example a 190 (W201) is a carb'd engine. So is a 200 (W124) A 190E and 200E are fuel injected. The 'E' stands for 'Einspritzung' the German word for injection.

I presume the 190 was still an option, but became very scarce after the facelift, I guess because everyone opted for a 190e?

 

[C36fan]

A lorra Mercs had carbs even into the 90's. For example a 190 (W201) is a carb'd engine. So is a 200 (W124) The 190E and 200E are fuel injected. The 'E' stands for 'Einspritzung' the German word for injection.

probably over here the ones i worked on they were fuel injected I think they were ktronick mono point ,under the big air filter had a single body membrane with a injector .

 

[stwat]

I presume the 190 was still an option, but became very scarce after the facelift, I guess because everyone opted for a 190e?

With the improved power and fuel economy from the injected engines I'm amazed anyone even bothered with the carb engines. But some nutters must have as they do crop up from time to time !

 

[stwat]

probably over here the ones i worked on they were fuel injected I think they were ktronick mono point ,under the big air filter had a single body membrane with a injector .

I've not heard of any being single pot injection but different counties did get differing spec.

The injected cars had Bosch KE-Jetronic which is part mechanical part electronic. If the electronic part of the system fails, the cars can still be driven but in a none monitored basic state of tune, less power more thirsty.

The KE-Jet system does use the large pancake style filter that sits atop the air flow meter plate that sits on top of the fuel metering head.

We do still get the odd new member on the 190 forum who mistake this for a carburettor.

 

[C36fan]

I've not heard of any being single pot injection but different counties did get differing spec. The injected cars had Bosch KE-Jetronik which is part mechanical part electronic. If the electronic part of the system fails, the cars can still be driven but in a none monitored basic state of tune, less power more thirsty. The KE-Jet system does use the large pancake style filter that sits atop the air flow meter plate that sits on top of the fuel metering head.

that's the one I was talking about its a mono point injection!
Thanks for the correction about the name of the injection as been a few years since I last worked in one !!

 

[stwat]

KE-Jet is multipoint. It has a separate injector for each cylinder. They are mechanical injectors.