My W204 C63 v W205 C63 - some thoughts

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This is very true. I have the factory performance suspension, Quaife ATB Diff and Pilot Sport 4S tyres on my 507 Coupe and the fact my car can corner rather well has surprised a few people on occasion :cool:

I have been in a 205 C63S and they are fantastic machines that have improved over the 204 series in most respects, and can have c100 horses added very easily. However, the standard 205 cars are not the vast improvement they are believed to be over 204 cars with appropriate modifications, or factory options fitted. I will be moving on from C63 ownership in the Spring/Summer of this year and heading into a GT3. This change of direction will give me a new and more involving driving experience that I am looking forward to, whilst still remaining analog with a high revving NA engine. I feel if I was to go to a 205 C63S I would feel it to be a significant improvement on the inside but not have the analog driving experience that I love so much in my 204.

Each to their own ;)

I agree that my 204 has an "analogue" style experience that my incoming 205 will lack. I wonder if it would have been possible to make a 205 as "analogue" as a 204 given all the constraints of extra electronics (particularly the steering) and so on. You can kind of see this in the AMG-GT series, which has been designed to be a more raw feeling sports car but for me shows that extra noise and flatter cornering do not make an analogue experience.

It's a transition that has been happening for years across many sporting cars, and of course there is endless debate about where it all started. E36 was less analogue than E30; 991 less analogue than 997; 360 less analogue than 355; 488 less analogue than 430; 993 less analogue than 964, etc.
 

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I agree that my 204 has an "analogue" style experience that my incoming 205 will lack. I wonder if it would have been possible to make a 205 as "analogue" as a 204 given all the constraints of extra electronics (particularly the steering) and so on. You can kind of see this in the AMG-GT series, which has been designed to be a more raw feeling sports car but for me shows that extra noise and flatter cornering do not make an analogue experience.

It's a transition that has been happening for years across many sporting cars, and of course there is endless debate about where it all started. E36 was less analogue than E30; 991 less analogue than 997; 360 less analogue than 355; 488 less analogue than 430; 993 less analogue than 964, etc.
We call it analogue and digital now, but forever and a day we have missed the simpler times which went before - it’s an intrinsic part of both technological change and human behaviour.
 

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The 204 C63 gearbox isn't my idea of analogue.
Mine neither. I remember it being pretty horrible in all modes apart from S+ which was ok.
I absolutely loved my 204 at the time but, as with many things, it’s only when you try something better and newer that you realise how quickly things improve and move on.
Saying the 204 is the bee’s knees now, in 2021, is like fawning over Betamax. It’s just nostalgia.
I’m gonna give this 4 pot C63 a go when it comes out. I’ll bet it’ll be ace.
 

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I was more pointing it out to the others who aren't aware of the latest version because long term a V8 can be just £155.

The whole thing is a joke and has been for many years. Each government makes up its own rules and then leaves all the old ones in place, a right dogs dinner. As much as I hate paying £600 a year it's not high enough to put me off.
Couldn't agree more. The road fund licence has been messed about year after year.
I still don't understand why road tax isn't abolished and the duty put onto fuel. The more you use the roads, the more you pay.
It's hard to be paying £600pa if the car is just a weekend toy.
The PAYG system will be fairer when it's introduced, but then those who travel most will be up in arms.
 
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The 204 C63 gearbox isn't my idea of analogue.

I agree. Nor is the power steering, electronic traction and skid control, ABS, CANBUS wiring, fly by wire throttle, Satnav, manual transmission mode that changes down for you and refuses to change down if thinks the revs will be too high. It's all relative, I guess, and for want of a better word it feels more analogue.

One poster above put it well, there is more feel and sensation through the chassis in the 204, and it's done perfectly. That's what I will miss. If you're after a weekend fun car, it's what people will look for, but my needs are different and I have other cars for that role.

But one person's analogue is another person's digital. I imagine the 205 will feel much more analogue than the 206 C63.
 

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I agree. Nor is the power steering, electronic traction and skid control, ABS, CANBUS wiring, fly by wire throttle, Satnav, manual transmission mode that changes down for you and refuses to change down if thinks the revs will be too high. It's all relative, I guess, and for want of a better word it feels more analogue.

One poster above put it well, there is more feel and sensation through the chassis in the 204, and it's done perfectly. That's what I will miss. If you're after a weekend fun car, it's what people will look for, but my needs are different and I have other cars for that role.

But one person's analogue is another person's digital. I imagine the 205 will feel much more analogue than the 206 C63.
Agree with all this, without knowing the C63 well.

This was exactly my point:
But one person's analogue is another person's digital.

For me analogue means manual gearbox, no electric steering, fly by wire, etc, etc. I enjoy driving truly analogue cars, but there are compromises at both ends of the spectrum.
 

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Analogue.

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That's if it makes it out of the drive before breaking down 😀
 

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You want to try the ATOM now that's Analogue
 

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