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My W204 first impressions

timskemp

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Well, my car is in having some bits sorted and they gave me this:

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to use for the duration, which should be until Wednesday.

C220 CDI Auto Elegance.

Feel: I must first say, everything the reviewers say about the way it drives is spot on - this car has the connected feeling you get when driving a 3 series. However I'm a little concerned that the ride quality isn't as good as the 3, with more pitch and bump felt on the motorway, though as my daily driver is a W211 I maybe expect too much. Steering is spot on, right speed and weight. Control weights - brakes are tooo light (even compared with SBC!). It's an auto so can't comment on clutch. Everything you touch in operation has a feeling of quality and solidity.

Comfort: No complaints at all, even coming down from the E class. I'd not want to sit in the back behind someone my height though but more room than an S60. The car is very much benchmarked to the 3 series as it's amazingly similar in space. Seats (leather) are spot on. Very low mechanical noise at all speeds and low road noise too, but wind noise is much higher than I expected (but no worse than the W203) at motorway speeds.

Performance: The 170 bhp 220CDi engine is free revving and lively and easily a match for the 320d. Tipfunction changes seem quicker than they were in the W203 (and are in my W211).

Economy: Brilliant. Well into the 40s on the motorway, and 30+ in town. Tomorrow will tell more...

Toys: Bluetooth handsfree paired easy with my Sony Ericsson W880i, and the dial control for the radio and phone is a doddle to use. Dual zone climate has a "mono" button that links both sides together (nice touch). Three settings on the heated seats. On board computer steering wheel controls actually make sense and the reset for the trip is finally on the wheel where you can see it, not hidden on the instrument panel. Aux in and power socket for MP3 player in the glovebox (with an adustable vent). This one has the auto dimming mirrors / auto wipers / auto lights as well.

Style: Will take a pic of the interior tomorrow but take my word on this - don't order the savannah/cashmere interior. I normally like beige interiors but the dashboard top seems to remind me of newborn baby nappies rather than anything pleasant. I described it as "poo brown" to the service manager and he didn't disagree. Details on the exterior look great in the Carneol red metallic though the paint finish is typical modern orange peel water based yuck. Something that seems odd as the new E, CLS, and CL in the showroom have a perfect flat finish. Everyone who has seen it today thinks it's well balanced as a design, I love it, and can't wait to see the next E class as it'll be stunning, and ride better!

Conclusion: If you're thinking of a 3 series, try this first before making your mind up. If you're thinking of an A4 don't waste your time at the Audi dealer. If you're in the bit of the market where C class crosses with Passat/Mondeo/Vectra on the budget, and the C is big enough for your needs then no contest, forget the bulk packs and get this. If you're thinking 9-3 or S60 then you'll get more power for the money with the Swedes, especially the S60D5 (which is still a favourite of mine) but neither of them is close in terms of drive enjoyment. Does it beat the 3 series??? Maybe. Would like to drive a sport and find out - but certainly I'd say it's an equal.

Love: The colour display and the radio dial controls
Hate: The interior colour.
 
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Good review Tim.
I like the comparison to Audi/Passat/Vectra.
Probably cheaper to run once depreciation is factored in.
 
Glad you liked it too. must admit - that colour combo looks awful.
 
Couple more observations:

1 - Finally the PRND legend is on the correct side of the gear lever

2 - Big mirrors

3 - Really solid feel, driving it reminds me of driving a 190E - you look down the high bonnet at the star and the star doesn't move, but the world moves around the star. Everything feels well engineered

4 - Dash material, feels cheap but I'm told it's highly recycled. That's as maybe but it does feel cheap especially when compared to that in an Audi

5 - Steering wheel - rim too thin, not enough padding, made with the most plastic feeling leather I've ever touched. A bit of padding (and maybe another 20k miles) would make it a lot better, in fact I reckon from the firmness of the suspension as well it's been designed to mature with miles
 
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Very nice looking car(apart from the mirrors:eek: )

It realy does sound like they have tried hard to get back to the level of quality that the 190 had:cool: Lets just hope they have the same reliability.


Stu
 
you look down the high bonnet at the star and the star doesn't move, but the world moves around the star.

poetry! ;)

one of the most carefully and accurately observed comments I've read on this or any other forum lately

One of the joys of MB ownership.

Cheers
Ade
 
Thank you for that and your comparison to the Swedes, though I have only sat in one, I too felt that there was a good build quality about it, no top end luxury, just well though out and built
 
On what grounds ?

adam

Well lets start with:

Audi 2.0 engine not as refined as the 2.2 MB. Not driven either of the V6s (though driven the V6 in the A8 and E class)

DSG vs Auto - we could go for a long time on this one. Only time will tell if DSG will be reliable, I like it (being the best thing about current Audis).

Handling and ride. Audi seem to think that hard ride = driver enjoyment, even the A8 seems more harsh than my mid-market E class but with no great improvement in handling.

Rear wheel drive.
 
1 - Finally the PRND legend is on the correct side of the gear lever
Hurrah!
3 - Really solid feel, driving it reminds me of driving a 190E - you look down the high bonnet at the star and the star doesn't move, but the world moves around the star. Everything feels well engineered
What I really want to know,please, is - does it drift to the left! ??
 
Great write up ! I think the car looks fab apart from the hidious large mirrors, I do hope they change them when they release the facelift model
 
Well lets start with:

Audi 2.0 engine not as refined as the 2.2 MB. Not driven either of the V6s (though driven the V6 in the A8 and E class)

DSG vs Auto - we could go for a long time on this one. Only time will tell if DSG will be reliable, I like it (being the best thing about current Audis).

Handling and ride. Audi seem to think that hard ride = driver enjoyment, even the A8 seems more harsh than my mid-market E class but with no great improvement in handling.

Rear wheel drive.

Please look again at the picture I posted.The just launched A4, no one here has driven it yet !

adam
 
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Please look at again at the picture I posted.The just launched A4, no one here as driven it yet !

adam

It's supposed to be quite a lot bigger than the old one - I dismissed the current model out of hand due to lack of space in the back.

I'm keen to try it - I have a hankering to have an all wheel drive car, and it looks like we'll miss out on the AWD W204 (again).
 
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you look down the high bonnet at the star and the star doesn't move, but the world moves around the star.
poetry!
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one of the most carefully and accurately observed comments I've read on this or any other forum lately

One of the joys of MB ownership.

Cheers
Ade
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What happens then if one buys a sports version....:rolleyes:
 
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you look down the high bonnet at the star and the star doesn't move, but the world moves around the star.
poetry!
wink.gif


one of the most carefully and accurately observed comments I've read on this or any other forum lately

One of the joys of MB ownership.

Cheers
Ade
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What happens then if one buys a sports version....:rolleyes:

No poetry :D

Possibly more fun driving it though..

Ade
 
Great write up ! I think the car looks fab apart from the hidious large mirrors, I do hope they change them when they release the facelift model

They need to make the passenger side one smaller to bring back all that 190E nostalgia.
 
Please look again at the picture I posted.The just launched A4, no one here as driven it yet !

adam


True... though it's still just a dressed up Skoda Superb with the drive at the wrong end of the car for most models isn't it?

Is it true though that they've gone to a bought in common rail setup for the new diesels instead of the PD?
 
Update:

Today was hull-m62-m18-m1-north circ-earlscourt-streatham-lewisham-m11-a14-a1-diversion-a1-m18-m62-hull

Three up going down, four up on the return. Again the stability and refinement were excellent though the ride not to E class standards. Performance is more than adequate, I reckon the 220Cdi is enough for 99% of most drivers needs pulling strongly from 1500-4000 rpm.

Fuel consumption - see pic, this was keeping up with the motorway traffic at all times, and includes a lot of shuffling around london. I think it shifts to neutral when stood with the brake on in drive, this seems to be a trait that mercedes have dropped and picked up from time to time.

Really appreciated the bluetooth phone kit - sent all my contacts to it and it works perfectly, fiddly to call out from the steering wheel but the multifunction dial thingy is brilliant as is the audio quality in both directions. Radio reception not as good as the E but the display and user interface is great. If you buy one and consider audio quality important get the harman speaker setup - the base ones lack definition and clarity, and sound boomy on male speech (the acid test for audio systems is Radio 4)




All being well it goes back to the dealer tomorrow!

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