No more £25 charge!

[SimonsMerc]

New Mayor living up to campaign promises!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7494495.stm

 

[aka$h]

Good to see a Mayor that keep his word, Livingstone went back on his own word on too many points.

 

[W210 Fan]

yes, I heard that on the way into work, something to do with the Porsche challenge in the courts according to Capital FM

 

[Gollom]

Wasn't a revenue earner though:


Mr Livingstone said the decision was "a further blow to the London as groundbreaking city to tackle climate change and improve the environment."
He added that rather than saving money "London will lose £30-£60m expected annual revenue from the scheme".

 

[Dragon]

He better be else we would had skinned him.

 

[amwebby]

Mr Livingstone said the decision was "a further blow to the London as groundbreaking city to tackle climate change and improve the environment."

He added that rather than saving money "London will lose £30-£60m expected annual revenue from the scheme".

And here's me thinking it was about tackling climate change and improving the environment, not generating revenue....

 

[Gollom]

And here's me thinking it was about tackling climate change and improving the environment, not generating revenue....

I know - I was quite staggered too

So how can you tell he was lying being economical with the facts? :bannana:

 

[recycled]

Oh great . When will all the others admit the revenue bit? e.g manchester

 

[Alfie]

Wasn't a revenue earner though:


Mr Livingstone said the decision was "a further blow to the London as groundbreaking city to tackle climate change and improve the environment."
He added that rather than saving money "London will lose £30-£60m expected annual revenue from the scheme".

Fantastic news.

Its very misleading for Ken to say they would lose out on 30M or so funding as they never had that increased funding in the first place as the scheme didnt come in. The saving of 10M by not introducing is a direct revenue saving of existing funds that were 'earmarked' for this scheme.

Well done Boris. Its good to see a politician sticking to what they promise. If only others could do the same.

 

[gina2201]

What is the link between congestion and co2 emissions, surely congestion is irrepsective of emissions, purely volume of traffic....

Good to hear it's not going through...

 

[portzy]

What is the link between congestion and co2 emissions, surely congestion is irrepsective of emissions, purely volume of traffic....

Good to hear it's not going through...

I'm thinking that its based on so many cars in such a relatively small area and all of them going nowhere fast. I might be wrong but I was always taught that petrol and deisel engines were at there least (most polluting) efficient when on low rpm like tickover etc.

HTH

Portzy.

 

[recycled]

true but if you have 1 million small cars queued up with low emmissions,e.g prius and bluemotion, that will be worse because you will have no revenue as they are small polluters, but it all adds up to big pollution and big congestion

 

[st4]

Oh great . When will all the others admit the revenue bit? e.g manchester

I know its all about the revenue, most members here do and so do they, but they won't admit to it. Taxing high status cars is as much about the environment as I am the Pope. Its contemptuous socialism masquarading as green motives

true but if you have 1 million small cars queued up with low emmissions,e.g prius and bluemotion, that will be worse because you will have no revenue as they are small polluters, but it all adds up to big pollution and big congestion

See my point above, if congestion was a real issue people wouldn't take to their cars. London has a great public transport system, so why drive in...because it isn't congested to the extent people will stop driving.

Again taxing small cars isn't the current governments way of thinking as it wants to target high emission cars, why, because they cost more and therefore are driven by the sort of people I beleive it holds in contempt.

He needs to go one step further and scrap it altogether.

 

[Sp!ke]

Ahh but he's also saying he'd like to split the charges so that you only get charged for driving into london at peak times. Morning and evening.

I wonder if this means if you work a 9-5 you'll be charged twice for driving in the zone during both peak times.

I really can't see them missing this trick.

 

[C240Sport97]

great stuff. It makes sense to abolish free entry for the lower emissions cars -- that was never going to help congestion or emissions; pure politics.

 

[st4]

great stuff. It makes sense to abolish free entry for the lower emissions cars -- that was never going to help congestion or emissions; pure politics.

of envy....

 

[amwebby]

Up until yesterday TFL still had all the information about how you were going to have to pay £25 to enter central London.

Today there's just this:

"Mayor Johnson stated in his manifesto that he would not proceed with CO2 charging.

Any announcements regarding this policy will be published on this website."

Do I sense the TFL is staffed by eco hippies who don't agree with the duly elected mayor?

 

[kikkthecat]

Ahh but he's also saying he'd like to split the charges so that you only get charged for driving into london at peak times. Morning and evening.

I wonder if this means if you work a 9-5 you'll be charged twice for driving in the zone during both peak times.

I really can't see them missing this trick.

That's exactly what Manchester are planning, at peak times and you will pay to drive in and again to drive out.

 

[V8mate]

That's exactly what Manchester are planning, at peak times and you will pay to drive in and again to drive out.

I think it's fairer to split it - I'm sure lots of people only contribute to the congestion through one of the 'rush hours' - it means you pay to congest rather than just get penalised blanket-style

 

[Gucci]

So, it was Porsche that stopped the £25 C-charge

Had this emailed to me by Porsche


Porsche wins victory in congestion charge challenge

Thank you very much for your support as we challenged
Mayor Livingstone's proposed £25 congestion charge in London.
As you saw for yourself, the congestion charge was a major issue
in the mayoral campaign and the candidate who opposed this
extension, Boris Johnson, was elected Mayor.

I am pleased to inform you that, today, the Administrative Court
in London has approved a consent order quashing the increase to
the charge. The new Mayor's legal team accepted that the
previous Mayoral administration should have taken into account
research from King's College which showed that the new charge
would actually increase CO2 emissions in Greater London and,
consequently that the new charge could, in fact, be unlawful.

Porsche has always been confident that the legal case was right
and now we are proud to have played a decisive role in striking
down such a blatantly political tax targeting motorists.

It is expected that significant legal costs will be awarded and
Porsche has decided to donate those costs to a fantastic charity
called Skidz, which takes at-risk young people and trains them in
motor vehicle maintenance and mechanics. This gives them the
tools and confidence they need to find gainful employment and
avoid a life of crime.

The support from Porsche will allow Skidz to open a facility in
Hillingdon, providing this opportunity to young Londoners for
the first time.

If you have any further comments or questions, you can contact
Porsche directly by e-mail at [email protected] or
telephone 08457 911 911.

Thank you again for your support which was tremendously
encouraging and important to the challenge.