Overtaking on motorways

[cinek]

Once again a rash comment before knowing the facts.

From the video and description it appears this is in a roadworks section where the hard shoulder has been put to use as a running lane.
I suspect the lorry driver saw a gap opening up in front of the poster so finding he was passing the poster, accelerated and took the gap.

If the hard shoulder was a running lane, "our man" should have been in it to allow others to pass.
I bet the lorry Tacho is a lot more accurate than "our Man's " speedo.
I also suspect the lorry driver didn't break the average 50mph limit.

The only thing we cannot verify is the speed the lorry was doing at that time.

What we can see, is that at 0:15s lorry undertakes the car traveling in the lane 1 using hard shoulder in doing so.

Rule 269 quite clearly states that: "You MUST not use the hard shoulder for overtaking. In areas where an active Traffic Management scheme is in force, the hard shoulder may be used as a running lane..."


There is no ATM in the section of the road.

 

[Dieselman]

Had another look at that video.

At 0:14s you can see the de-reg signs, which signify end of roadworks, with speed limit restriction coming to an end as well.

That means hard shoulder could not be used a running lane at this point.

Maybe if the OP could post another 30s of video footage prior to what he has already posted, this would clarify what's what

I have re watched the video and see the end of limit.

I wonder what traffic was behind the car and why the car driver neither sped up to the higher limit as other vehicles had done, nor moved over to allow the lorry to join the carriageway.
It looks like a foreign registered lorry, so will have reduced right side visibility, which always makes it more difficult for those drivers.

I would have made space for the lorry to move over...but then I don't have a dash cam to feed...

 

[cinek]

I have re watched the video and see the end of limit.

I wonder what traffic was behind the car and why the car driver neither sped up to the higher limit as other vehicles had done, nor moved over to allow the lorry to join the carriageway.
It looks like a foreign registered lorry, so will have reduced right side visibility, which always makes it more difficult for those drivers.

I would have made space for the lorry to move over...but then I don't have a dash cam to feed...

I hear you, hence my comment in post 59 re additional video footage, prior to the one we have seen.

Maybe the OP aggravated the lorry driver, maybe he didnt.
I am guessing we will never find out.

 

[IanMSpencer]

We have a video of someone driving at the limit being passed by people significantly exceeding the limit, so my reaction was that:

a) the driver could not see the merging vehicle as it was approaching from behind, most likely in his blind spot.

b) as he was at the limit, he had no specific need to consider faster vehicles joining, where the appropriate speed to join is at or below the limit, not above.

c) the lorry had plenty of time to consider the traffic.

If we consider the normal courtesy pull out, it is because we look across and can see that we are likely to be in the same space, and we then consider whether there are cars behind that would be in conflict. If that is a problem, then I would consider modifying my speed to allow a vehicle to merge, and at the same time I would expect the joining vehicle to also be planning ahead. Driving on the public highway should be co-operative, not competitive.

 

[Dieselman]

The lorry driver is probably on some Latvian truckers forum as we speak saying just how inconsiderate British Mercedes drivers are...

 

[stereophoney]

I have re watched the video and see the end of limit.

I wonder what traffic was behind the car and why the car driver neither sped up to the higher limit as other vehicles had done, nor moved over to allow the lorry to join the carriageway.
It looks like a foreign registered lorry, so will have reduced right side visibility, which always makes it more difficult for those drivers.

I would have made space for the lorry to move over...but then I don't have a dash cam to feed...

Unless the lorry had a camera nobody will know / believe what went on. The reason I didn't move over was that there were cars overtaking on my right. The reason I didn't speed up like the other cars is because the 50 limit applies until you reach the national speed limit sign which is after the lorry was already passing!

 

[markjay]

My experience is that drivers use the zone between the last average-speed camera and the NSL sign as a drag racing strip.

I suspect the lorry driver was unhappy at you not (illegally) speeding-up towards the NSL sign as other drivers did.

And he expressed his discontent and impatience accordingly...