yes, I understand michele, thats possibly correct if the pc is left on all the time, I'm not 100% sure but normally these diallers, as I understand it dont just dial out anytime, its that they initiate a disconnect then reconnect whilst you are online, so its when you are online that they are a problem, not when you are just not at the pc.
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yes, I understand michele, thats possibly correct if the pc is left on all the time, I'm not 100% sure but normally these diallers, as I understand it dont just dial out anytime, its that they initiate a disconnect then reconnect whilst you are online, so its when you are online that they are a problem, not when you are just not at the pc.
machasm
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grasmere said:
Good point.
Mac.
I saw a network router with built-in dialup modem for NAT/PAT just like a DSL/cable, it had dial-on-demand and several other really useful features. If you can't/won't have broadband, if you want to share your network connection and if you want to avoid things like rogue diallers then that would be an excellent piece of kit to use.
reflexboy
MB Enthusiast
glojo said:Hi Spike,
The engineer stated they were responsible for the line outside of my property, but that was four weeks ago and no bill so far.
I suppose I ought to check, but then again....
John
As a BT Engineer (don't all start shouting at once ,pleeeease) BT is responsible for the line up to and including the main socket (NTE5, master jack). Broadband enabled or not. Anything beyond this, is classed as customer owned wiring, even if it was installed by us but over a year old and hence out of warranty. That said, every extension socket installed should be wired from this main socket, so as the customer can isolate their wiring and to see if the fault is on their side, or the BT maintained side of the internal wiring. Although in most cases this is not the case and we enter the 'grey area'- lots of them! Even if you have BT Broadband and the ADSL filter is found to be causing the problem, the engineer may charge you a £55 callout charge ( I said don't shout at me!) and then an extra £60 per hour if you request the engineer to continue work to repair your wiring/ extension sockets! Many customers get very annoyed by this. Scenario: I get a job to fix a faulty line- arrive at customers, unplug Broadband filter, fault gone, line now working. Ooppss-£55 callout please madam. But the customer says: I have only had broadband two weeks and its BT Broadband. No difference Im afraid. I fix the line, any futher fault with the broadband or assciated equipment is down to the broadband service provider, be that BT or another operator. It is the customer's responibility to unplug everything from the main socket or risk the dreaded callout charge. How little old ladies of 94 are expected to do this and then get charged is beyond me, but like I said , don't shout at me, Im only a number in BT's eyes. politics-makes me sick!
reflexboy
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Oh, and you may be unlucky, because the charge for the callout is usually itemised on your quaterly bill, so it may take up to 3 months to show up.
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Ashley
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Your never going to get out of the RED now you have told us you work for BT. 
reflexboy
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zooman said:Your never going to get out of the RED now you have told us you work for BT.
But I have over 15 years of experience of talking my way out of the red!
BT engineers get a lot of stick but most are probably very good.reflexboy said:
If you think BT engineers are poor, try any getting anything from any other major Telco and you will see just how good they are in comparison! Bulldog et al take note!
There was a superb BT engineer that looked after an office I used to work at, he had a bag full of old-school tools and he even used things like multimeters which today's new recruits would never expect to use. The guy must have been close to retirement and I'm afraid that by now his experience and knowledge will have retired with him. I bet if that office call BT now they get a PFY in a shiny uniform with 2 weeks of training behind him
glojo
Hardcore MB Enthusiast
But I haven't moaned about them!! 
The engineer fixed the problem, he was polite, helpful, efficient and thank goodness declined the offer of a cup of tea (£50 per hour labour charges)
If I have to pay, then I have to pay. The problem was fixed and I'm happy.
Regards,
John
The engineer fixed the problem, he was polite, helpful, efficient and thank goodness declined the offer of a cup of tea (£50 per hour labour charges)
If I have to pay, then I have to pay. The problem was fixed and I'm happy.
Regards,
John
PJH
MB Enthusiast
You mean you're only an EIN !!reflexboy said:
Should I expect to come crashing down ?zooman said:Your never going to get out of the RED now you have told us you work for BT.
(I'm nothing to do with phones.)
reflexboy
MB Enthusiast
PJH said:
nigel cross
MB Enthusiast
PJH mentioning EIN was a giveaway you must be BT as well. Or as Homer Simpson would say Duumm. :bannana:
nigel cross
MB Enthusiast
If your asking mine is JCBR 95 :bannana:
reflexboy
MB Enthusiast
Mine was SDC141, but they changed it (again) and I'll be damned if i can rememer it! So, Nigel, what do you do for the 'firm'?nigel cross said:
nigel cross
MB Enthusiast
PABX Maintainence, Onsite Engineer at a Large American Bank in Docklands in the City, Dont recognise the duty reference. Do you work in the sticks?
:bannana:
:bannana:
nigel cross
MB Enthusiast
Getting back to the original thread have a look on Google for Spybot,
Its free and good :bannana:
Its free and good :bannana:
reflexboy
MB Enthusiast
Hi Nigel-No, I don't live in the sticks! If you live in Surbiton, Im about the same distance as you are from Tolworth Tower but in the opposite direction. See we're neighbours :bannana:nigel cross said:
I mainly work as a CSE in Richmond and Kingston areas.
PJH
MB Enthusiast
Just found one on a PC at work. Note filename is similar to valid MS software.
Dailer.Generic Filename C:\WINNT\Explor.exe
Dailer.Generic Filename C:\WINNT\Explor.exe
Just keep away from the porn sites and you will be fine... thats where most of dial up software comes from apprently (not that I would know...). if u have a dial up connection it changes the default free dialup number from ur ISP to a premium rate number....
glojo
Hardcore MB Enthusiast
Flash said:Just keep away from the porn sites and you will be fine... thats where most of dial up software comes from apprently (not that I would know...). if u have a dial up connection it changes the default free dialup number from ur ISP to a premium rate number....
My sister got caught out down loading Mp3's. Honest..... Evidently a message came up that looked just like an authorisation from Microsoft. When she clicked 'Okay', unbeknown to her the modem automatically disconnected, then re-dialled a premium rate number.
She has now removed the modem and changed onto a broadband connection.
John
