Pirelli Tyres lasting 10/15k miles?

[christopherwk]

Is this normal - 10,000 for rears, 15,000 for fronts?

They were Pirelli P7s 225/55/16, but they were replaced with 3mm of tread left on them.

Michelin Primacy HPs on now, hope they last a lot longer!

 

[Will]

Michelins do tend to last longer from what I've experienced - quite a few others seem to say the same. I think the extra cost is balanced out by this

Will

 

[C240Sport97]

My Michelin Pilot Sports (19") for the rear tyres of my Boxster lasted 13k miles .. it probably had another 2 to 3k miles left as they were just over 3mm. But at slightly above 3mm, there is a significant difference in handling, grip and comfort, so I changed them.

2 rear tyres were £570 fitted!!! Ouch! And that was the cheapest I could find them.

 

[Will]

My Michelin Pilot Sports (19") for the rear tyres of my Boxster lasted 13k miles .. it probably had another 2 to 3k miles left as they were just over 3mm. But at slightly above 3mm, there is a significant difference in handling, grip and comfort, so I changed them.

2 rear tyres were £570 fitted!!! Ouch! And that was the cheapest I could find them.

Ouch indeed! I know they're 19s and no doubt specially rate for Porsche (N?), but I paid a fair chunk less than that for four Michelin Pilot Sport 2s in MO fitment for the CLK55 (staggered 17s).

Who did you find the cheapest out of interest? Likewise I found quite a variation in pricing for mine - from over £700, to the cheapest at £504 inclusive - that was at 'Martin's Tyres' in West End, near Woking

Definately pays to shop around

Will

 

[C240Sport97]

Ouch indeed! I know they're 19s and no doubt specially rate for Porsche (N?), but I paid a fair chunk less than that for four Michelin Pilot Sport 2s in MO fitment for the CLK55 (staggered 17s).

Who did you find the cheapest out of interest? Likewise I found quite a variation in pricing for mine - from over £700, to the cheapest at £504 inclusive - that was at 'Martin's Tyres' in West End, near Woking

Definately pays to shop around

Will

yes, Porsche specific, so they were N1s (265/35 19) .. but they are only about £10 each more than non Ns.

Best was wheels in motion: touchless fitting (this takes a lot more time as they use a special machine, but nothing metal touches the rims, so well worth the bother), nitrogen filling and balancing etc.

elite in Rainham, Essex was £10 less, but they have scratched my wheels before and they do not offer 'touchless fitting'.

 

[Reza]

contact the place you bought the tyres from and throw the Sale of Goods Act at them if they just sold you the tyre or Sale of Goods + Services Act if they installed them as well. Pirelli tyres are quite expensive and as such you expect it to be of reasonable quality. Really you should havew gone back to them first and seen if they would have replaced them free of charge. In any event, i would suggest you go them with any evidence, e.g. mileage of car when tyres replaced and how much thread remaining. Also if in the report it gives the make/model of tyres that would help.

If they don't refund/offer to replace them i would go to citizens advice and get them to help!

 

[crockers]

contact the place you bought the tyres from and throw the Sale of Goods Act at them if they just sold you the tyre or Sale of Goods + Services Act if they installed them as well. Pirelli tyres are quite expensive and as such you expect it to be of reasonable quality. Really you should havew gone back to them first and seen if they would have replaced them free of charge. In any event, i would suggest you go them with any evidence, e.g. mileage of car when tyres replaced and how much thread remaining. Also if in the report it gives the make/model of tyres that would help.

If they don't refund/offer to replace them i would go to citizens advice and get them to help!

For what reason ??? Are you suggesting because OP got 10k rears and 15k fronts that this is because they were of unmerchantable quality? Or does your post relate to some other post in this thread?

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

If there's a manufacturing fault then Pirelli are pretty good at sorting you out with replacements or refunds.

However I'm not sure having 3mm left after 10,000 miles is something they could help you with - nor would Sale of Goods Act with the supplier - that's the kind of wear I would expect on a heavy, torquey RWD car.

 

[Reza]

10,000 - 15,000 miles seems a bit short lived! After 15 years and 170,000, my rear 2 tyres have only just got near the 3mm mark! I would expect a good quality set of tyres to last a REASONABLE amount of time. 10 - 15k isn't it!

Whats the worst that will happen? Waste 30mins of time persuing them! But i wouldn't expect a percentage of my money back or a replacement set, as excessively worn tyres cant be repaired!! You would be surprised what consumer rights we have!

 

[christopherwk]

Ok, thanks, so 10k is about right then?! The Pirellis were replaced by the main dealer (http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/general-discussion/77061-using-main-dealer-servicing.html - if you want to find out why) so I and they will know the mileage they were put on.

The Michelins were done at Kwik Fit because one of the Pirelli's had a nail in it so I went in there preparing to spend only a £20 or so to get it patched up, but the nail went in at an angle so they coulnd't repair, and they had a look at all the other tyres, which were all at 3mm, so I may as well get the whole replaced at a cost of £600

They only had the Michelins in that size (and I was in a hurry to get to work, and I couldn't really use the space saver). There's a significant improvement in fuel consumption, though - something to do with nitrogen they used to pump them with (which I was charged an extra £4 for!)?

 

[Dieselman]

10,000 - 15,000 miles seems a bit short lived! After 15 years and 170,000, my rear 2 tyres have only just got near the 3mm mark!

Are we talking rubber car tyres or steel train wheels, here?

 

[rf065]

10,000 - 15,000 miles seems a bit short lived! After 15 years and 170,000, my rear 2 tyres have only just got near the 3mm mark! I would expect a good quality set of tyres to last a REASONABLE amount of time. 10 - 15k isn't it!

Whats the worst that will happen? Waste 30mins of time persuing them! But i wouldn't expect a percentage of my money back or a replacement set, as excessively worn tyres cant be repaired!! You would be surprised what consumer rights we have!

Tyres should not be used after they are 6 years old, your car is an accident waiting to happen!

Russ

 

[Dieselman]

There's a significant improvement in fuel consumption, though - something to do with nitrogen they used to pump them with (which I was charged an extra £4 for!)?

It's because Michelin add more silica to the mix so the rubber is more flexible due to the molecules sliding over each other more easily, so converts less energy into heat.

In other words they have lower rolling resistance so you go further per unit of fuel.

New tyres normally waste more energy due to the additional tread movement, so the Pirelli's must be poor in this respect, or the Michelin's particularly good.
What Michi's are they?

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

After 15 years and 170,000, my rear 2 tyres have only just got near the 3mm mark! I would expect a good quality set of tyres to last a REASONABLE amount of time. 10 - 15k isn't it!

Is that a typo??!!

If a front-wheel drive car run only the motorway at a constant speed - never turning, slowing or acclerating - managed 170,000 miles on a set of rear tyres, then that would be some going.

If it's right, I reckon you've got another 50,000 miles in those bad boys before you reach the legal limit!!

 

[camerafodder]

10,000 - 15,000 miles seems a bit short lived! After 15 years and 170,000, my rear 2 tyres have only just got near the 3mm mark! I would expect a good quality set of tyres to last a REASONABLE amount of time. 10 - 15k isn't it!

Whats the worst that will happen? Waste 30mins of time persuing them! But i wouldn't expect a percentage of my money back or a replacement set, as excessively worn tyres cant be repaired!! You would be surprised what consumer rights we have!

I'm assuming this is a joke

 

[christopherwk]

Tyres should not be used after they are 6 years old, your car is an accident waiting to happen!

Russ

Time to replace the hardly-used spare then?!

They're Michelin Primacy HP.

 

[st13phil]

I've just replaced the Michelin Primacy HP's (205/55 R16) on the rear of my W204 at almost 23k miles with 2.5mm - 3.0mm of tread left. I know it's a different car with a less torquey engine, but I tend to drive fairly briskly so it'll probably be comparable.

FWIW, I've never been much of a fan of Pirelli's which I find tend to wear much faster than Michelins and the grip really declines once they're even moderately worn.

 

[st13phil]

Best was wheels in motion: touchless fitting (this takes a lot more time as they use a special machine, but nothing metal touches the rims, so well worth the bother), nitrogen filling and balancing etc.

Great tip, thanks

Having had to polish out (as best I can) the scuff marks on the rims of my W204 that a local tyre fitting emporium managed to make, I now know where I'll be going to have tyres fitted in future.

 

[crockers]

I'm assuming this is a joke

Well it had me in stitches.........

I am on my 4th set of rears
1st two sets were conti contact sports and I got 15k each set. The 3rd set was Goodyear F1 assymetrics and I got around 13K - am now running Michelins with around 12k and looking good...

Fronts seem to last 25k ish...

 

[Reza]

Is that a typo??!!

If a front-wheel drive car run only the motorway at a constant speed - never turning, slowing or acclerating - managed 170,000 miles on a set of rear tyres, then that would be some going.

If it's right, I reckon you've got another 50,000 miles in those bad boys before you reach the legal limit!!

It is a 300TD. It doesn't appear to have driven like a fool. I presume all were careful drivers.