Pops and bangs = no class!

[bobafett]

There is a C63s going around my town that i see (or bloody hear) quite regular doing the town centre runs (I think it’s wrapped and looks sh1te) but the pops and bangs are outrageous. I mean it’s like gurgling gatling gun going down the road. Now I like noise, it’s a big part of why I buy the cars I do, but I mean, there is to much and then there is this thing! I feel embarrassed for the owner because he must think it sounds awesome, and it’s sounds terrible so Chav, cheap and everyone look at me!

It’s such a classy car and does not need this (I have come to expect it from the “i work to run my car” kids with the 135i or 240’s) maybe an exhaust mod to release a bit more noise, but if you think it sounds good, it does not and that’s coming from a noise guy!

 

[ALFAitalia]

Anything more than the natural pops that can come with the turbo V8 models on overrun is very sad...IMO.....what the point of a crackle and pop map?....maybe if it improved performance or turbo life it might be justifiable....but it does nothing more than sound silly.....and doubtless draws the wrong sort of attention from the boys in blue. Can't imagine it does cats or exhausts any good at all have those extra explosions in the exhaust system. CHAV!

 

[bobafett]

Anything more than the natural pops that can come with the turbo V8 models on overrun is very sad...IMO.....what the point of a crackle and pop map?....maybe if it improved performance or turbo life it might be justifiable....but it does nothing more than sound silly.....and doubtless draws the wrong sort of attention from the boys in blue. Can't imagine it does cats or exhausts any good at all have those extra explosions in the exhaust system. CHAV!

Indeed, I had the same issue with a GTR that the guy had that lived near me, it was so bad it hurt your ears, and I mean that! He did come by and speak to me one day when I was polishing my cars, and although on the face of it, seemed like a nice guy, I think I did upset him saying as politely as possible that his car was way, way to much, and the estate is talking about it all for the wrong reasons what was he thinking? as he did change it shortly after for an R8!

That was the worst I have heard and apart from some kid in his white "Maxton Kitted" 135i with an SA80 map, the C63s is putting up a challenge for Chav noise of 2023!

 

[sgregory124]

Anything more than the natural pops that can come with the turbo V8 models on overrun is very sad...IMO.....what the point of a crackle and pop map?....maybe if it improved performance or turbo life it might be justifiable....but it does nothing more than sound silly.....and doubtless draws the wrong sort of attention from the boys in blue. Can't imagine it does cats or exhausts any good at all have those extra explosions in the exhaust system. CHAV!

Agreed - I mean my car pops and bangs, its one of the reasons I bought it, but only as much as is intended by the factory,

I've seen a lot of videos with 'Kustom' cars blowing the exhaust or bits of bodywork off the back of the car during an extended 'revolution' sessions in car parks (especially the JDM meet in Reading for some reason).

 

[oldguy57]

There was a lot of derision at the pop and bang brigade at a meeting last weekend. In the minority of car enthusiasts they are.

 

[E55BOF]

Pops and bangs in the exhaust on the overrun used to be a sign of a yobmobile with poor carburation, and should now be a sign of a poor remap, but now that some yobs can afford cars like a C63, even some factory maps are set up to produce them. I don't really get why some people like them; I think it's an age thing...

 

[BlackC55]

I agree. If anyone asks for a pop and bang re-map I wont do it.

 

[sgregory124]

Pops and bangs in the exhaust on the overrun used to be a sign of a yobmobile with poor carburation, and should now be a sign of a poor remap, but now that some yobs can afford cars like a C63, even some factory maps are set up to produce them. I don't really get why some people like them; I think it's an age thing...

I was about to suggest that the people who like flames, loud bangs and bodywork coming off, might be trying to emulate a race car.

But then I realised they've probably never seen (let alone heard!) a proper race car up close to appreciate the visceral noise they make. Lets be fair, theres zero comparison to be made with a Focus ST + pop and bang map vs. a Corvette C6R on the overrun coming in hot to the pits at Le Mans (now they DO sound outrageous, but in a good way!).

 

[as400]

Sounds great at Goodwood!....not so much at Tesco's carpark etc.

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

They remind me of Yamaha Fizzy riders who drilled holes in their exhaust to improve the sound
as they drove down the High Street at 30mph.

 

[C60Free]

I feel embarrassed for the owner because he must think it sounds awesome, and it’s sounds terrible so Chav, cheap and everyone look at me!

It’s such a classy car and does not need this (I have come to expect it from the “i work to run my car” kids with the 135i or 240’s) maybe an exhaust mod to release a bit more noise, but if you think it sounds good, it does not and that’s coming from a noise guy!

Let's be honest - by it's very nature the C63 is a bit of a look at me mobile. It's loud, obnoxious and brutish. It's a car that attracts attention. It's not why I or I expect most people here got one, but it's not a surprise to me that people increase the level of the factory calibrated noise, pops and bangs.

As for the "i work to run my car" kids - at least they have a job. I've found working has been a pre-requisite to having the funds to run a car and do other nice things. When I was young(er) I had a ridiculously loud exhaust - would I now? No way, but it doesn't surprise me that people still do. It's just all done in software instead now

There are people with very, very deep pockets who are doing questionable things to their cars - look at some of the near new bodykitted Range Rovers at £150k+ - a bunch of those are probably getting maps, front tints etc as soon as they leave the dealership....

 

[badgx]

M156 naturally burbles and pops on its own, can hear it on mine it's fairly prominent without the secondary CAT and resonator delete. E63 is booked in at 514hp and on the dyno it bangs once its reaches high rev range underload. The M156 is an angry engine and I do like the odd bang on M156 or say RB26 but definitely it's a big no for anything wannabe like a 4 pot Ford Focus or say 6 pot bmw. Persistent bang will also shorten the life span of an engine.

This beast however, can make an exception as its tuned for performance and power

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[BTB 500]

Anything more than the natural pops that can come with the turbo V8 models on overrun is very sad...IMO

The original NA C63 had pops that were artificially generated by the ECU. Not sure about the current turbo engines - I assume they could be suppressed if required.

 

[C43AMG]

The Bentley has the option of the Sports Exhaust fitted. On down shift it crackels and pops which i wasn't aware of until about a month after i bought it, it does bring a to my face, i'm not sure the Bentley old school appreciate it

 

[sgregory124]

The original NA C63 had pops that were artificially generated by the ECU. Not sure about the current turbo engines - I assume they could be suppressed if required.

I personally wouldn’t want them suppressed, otherwise I may as well be driving a normal car.

The GPF does a great job of making post-FL cars sound castrated from the factory

 

[ChrisHGTV]

I much prefer the sound of a super lumpy idle to pops and bangs - to me that screams "performance" more than anything. My dads Westie hill climb car has quite an aggressive cam and light flywheel and i love it. It barely idles at all at less than 1500 rpm. Ah and the sound of the Le Mans GT40's spluttering through the pits at Brands or Goodwood - i'd take that sound over a farty pop fest any day!

 

[markjay]

Most modern high performance cars have the exhaust sound 'doctored' by the car manufacturer's accustics designers... some even have raw petrol injected into the exahust to simulate backfiring (which occured in race cars from over-rich mixture igniting in the exhaust when slowing down).

 

[bobafett]

The original NA C63 had pops that were artificially generated by the ECU. Not sure about the current turbo engines - I assume they could be suppressed if required.

The difference between standard exhaust, modded / straight through is not what the car I was speaking about in the original post had. That C63s thing was ridiculous that had to be very heavily mapped in!

 

[SmartAmg]

Let's be honest - by it's very nature the C63 is a bit of a look at me mobile. It's loud, obnoxious and brutish. It's a car that attracts attention. It's not why I or I expect most people here got one, but it's not a surprise to me that people increase the level of the factory calibrated noise, pops and bangs.

As for the "i work to run my car" kids - at least they have a job. I've found working has been a pre-requisite to having the funds to run a car and do other nice things. When I was young(er) I had a ridiculously loud exhaust - would I now? No way, but it doesn't surprise me that people still do. It's just all done in software instead now

There are people with very, very deep pockets who are doing questionable things to their cars - look at some of the near new bodykitted Range Rovers at £150k+ - a bunch of those are probably getting maps, front tints etc as soon as they leave the dealership....

And good luck to um, it's there car, there money, at least as said they are working,
(I presume ) just because i don't like it, doesn't make it wrong.

 

[Petrol Pete]

OP , would the C63 in question have just 2 doors by any chance ? Reason I ask is the coupe' seems to attract 'them' more than a saloon or estate.

It's no consolation but there is a similar fool 'round our way in a scruffy E63, embarrassing , everybody looks at him ....for all of the wrong reasons. Chav **** buffoon that he is.