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R Class depreciation

At a motorshow I sat in a Cadillac Seville just to see and couldn't get the seat far enough back.
A tall German man got in and sat in the passenger seat, took one look and said 'Get a proper car, buy a Mercedes'...LOL..

Yes. It is amazing how many cars are short of legroom for the longer legged. The A and B class are great but most beemers are too lacking for me. All Toyotas are hopeless, even the RX400h from Lexus is for 31 inch max. Been a real problem all my life and sounds like for you too. One of the great things about Mercedes till the R class.
 
My in-laws brought a huge pile of stuff over with them including a mountain bike (inside, not on a rack) and a garden bench! And they're taking the two kids back to Germany with their luggage, including their two bikes (making 3 in total). So interior space can't be that bad?! Can't comment on the seating positions, obviously it will suit some people and maybe not others.

But yes, my point in posting was really just the low price they paid for a 1 year old car at the luxury end of the market.
 
I have four kids, and would really love to replace my E with a long R in 4 yrs time (kids will be 17, 16+wheelchair, 12 and 11) as most people carriers are too small, bar the Voyager which is just crap. Here's hoping we get a RWD diesel version this year, should bring 3yr old ones into my budget range by then!

I think the R is a stunning looking car.
 
I have four kids, and would really love to replace my E with a long R in 4 yrs time. Here's hoping we get a RWD diesel version this year, should bring 3yr old ones into my budget range by then!

I think the R is a stunning looking car.

Yes, I like the looks too. And there will be a RWD diesel this September, apparently, with the 5 seater estate car layout (bench in the rear and optional two extra seats in the boot like an E class estate.

Actually there will be two diesels 280cdi and 320cdi, plus the petrols. You can choose the estate car layout or the 6 seat layout. Can choose RWD or 4WD. Just as they should have done from the beginning.

What nobody at Merc seems to know is whether the SWB version will have a slightly longer track to let the driver's seat go back a bit more. But anyway the LWB is fine.
 
I have four kids, and would really love to replace my E with a long R in 4 yrs time (kids will be 17, 16+wheelchair, 12 and 11) as most people carriers are too small, bar the Voyager which is just crap. Here's hoping we get a RWD diesel version this year, should bring 3yr old ones into my budget range by then!

What about a Viano? RWD, 2.0 / 2.2 / 3.0 diesels, and 3 body lengths to choose from.
 
At the moment the two smaller kiddies are fine in the Verso - but yes a Viano is another, if less good looking, alternative.
 
Shirley that means the residuals are bad off list but not from actual prices paid.

Which is how it works with Fords (eg. 18k car worth 10.5K at end of year 1 but really costs £14k new with discounts).

Wasn't Airplane a great movie (Surely you cannot be serious. Yes I am and stop calling me Shirley.):D :D
 
The trouble is that many of the things you claim are not borne out by the facts. I drove the SWB model. Long as an S class and I would not want any bigger with UK parking.
1. The legroom in the front is less than an A class and inadequate for longer legged people like me. It is not height of occupant that matters but leg length that matters. It has room for, say, a 31 inch inside leg. I'm 33 inch and could not get seat back enough to get thigh supported.
2. Raising the front seat to try to support the thigh does not help because some fool designed the seat so it swings forward (reducing lewgroom) as you raise it.
3. No tilt adjustment on the squab on a £40-50 k car is absurd. Even cheap superminis have that.
4. Boot space is about like a mini and totally ludicrous for 2 or 3 people on holiday let alone for the six it was designed for.
5. Could have been a really good crossover, a big estate car with luxury seats (not the ones it has), lots of room for a wide range of people sizes, a bench seat behind the two front seats, option of childrens' seats in the back and a major sized boot. Like an ML but looking like, and set out like, a big E class estate. At the moment ML's have more legroom in the front, in the middle and a far bigger boot.

The long wheelbase has enough legroom in the front but still has a pathetic boot to get 6 seats that few people want.

The residuals are lousy because Mercedes are letting dealers sell brand new ones at £9k off list, thus wrecking their customers residual values.
1 - The legroom is a damn site more than my wifes A-Class I can assure you.

2 - After you raise the front seat just move it backwards.

3 - Deffo had tilt adjustment.

4 - Boot space is more than most MPV's and with the last two seats down it is cavernous.

The problem is that to fit anymore than 5 people in a car you are always going to loose bootspace.
My freinds Peugeot MPV has the most pathetic boot ever invented.

Sorry I just noticed that it was the SWB version you drove, mine was a LWB version, obviously makes a difference.
 
Picked up a 56 plate R320 CDI LWB Sport in black, loads of extras, 6000 miles, one owner, new list price £53,500 for £34,500 at Mercedes Direct in Manchester.

Had it a week and really chuffed.

You can easily spec an S-Max to over £30k which seems to be the only 7 seater any magazines rate. Although the S-Max is a looker you only get a 130bhp auto diesel so the R-Class at this money had to be the right choice.
 
Hello,

Maybe I'm one of the few that like the R-class but then I like the 6 series BM's and no one else seems to, only seen a hand full in the UK but quite a few in Europe. Second hand they look like a great buy, having bought new I doubt I will ever again you get sooooo much more car for your money.

Even the lease costs on these were cheap £399 a month.

I would seriously consider one after my current bus, so if someone can spec up a nice R500 lwb sport and let me know in a few years.

Thanks
 
my salesman at my local mb dealer advised my dad not to have one of these cars for that exact reason..he said if he wanted one he could get one the next day literally as there are so many lying around not sold he could of had a discount of nearly 10k so no wonder they are losing money hand over fist
 
i to like the 6 series bms had a m6 convertible but changed for amg 63cab...so your not by yourself!!!!!
 
How strange. Sat in a short wheelbase R class today and lo and behold they have increased the legroom in the front and it is now plenty for my 33 inch inside leg. Hooray. Does someone at Mercedes read this forum? That is one big step forward.

Secondly the big estate version, with a bench seat in the rear and a big boot area must be pretty close now.

mercedes at Southampton have the current model, pre registered at an amazing £12k off list. becoming great value. Just a pity it is Ban G for emissions but inevitable I suppose and so is most of the opposition.
 

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