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scl 600 no steering wheel

Someone has sent me a email with some pictures of a s cl 600 with no steering wheel.just a joystick.how can i post the piccys on here.Or can forward it to anyone to post??
 

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You can mail them to me P and I'll post them for you;)

edit - scratch that - you've done it ;) :D

Now that looks different!!
 
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SAAB had a similar system about twenty years ago. Personally I fail to see how you could control the car using this method.
 
Dieselman said:
SAAB had a similar system about twenty years ago. Personally I fail to see how you could control the car using this method.

It's like fly-by-wire, just takes time, and need to practice - no worse the Sinclair C5

Quite a car, though I'm not sure I like the black hardtop
 
I like it, thanks both of you for posting the pictures. It is also sooooo refreshing to see a Mercedes-Benz in colour.


John
 
The Mercedes sl has no steering wheel,Instead there is a sidestick controlier,like that found in the cockpit of a F-16 fighter,although its functions are not quite the same-and there is no gun trigger.So its shove forward to go and pull backwards to stop.Turns are aircraft-like, just push the stick to the left or right and the SL's nose responds instantly.Simple? Up to a point.The Mercedes engineers say computer games aficionados aged 8 to 18 handle it with ease. golden oldies need not apply.
 
As a golden oldie, I probably won't be applying. Mind you it might also have something to do with not being able to afford a CL600 anyhow. ;)

It's not the whole concept that puts me off but the fact that the joystick is offset so that it can only be operated by one hand. AFAIK all aircraft joysticks are mounted directly in front of the pilot's seat.
 
DieselE said:
AFAIK all aircraft joysticks are mounted directly in front of the pilot's seat.

Whoops :o Your not having a good run, times have moved on since Biggles :) Any number of modern aircraft, both military and civil actually have this 'joystick' on one side. I take your point though and it just does not look right. It must work though otherwise there would be a fair few craters splattered around our airfields. :)

Have a nice day,
John

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This might not be a genuine photograph but it does show where the joystick is located on an F-16. I will see if I can find a civilian example



CockpitF16M.jpg


Voila
One Airbus illustration

Joystick in left hand!
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glojo said:
Whoops :o Your not having a good run, times have moved on since Biggles :) Any number of modern aircraft, both military and civil actually have this 'joystick' on one side. I take your point though and it just does not look right. It must work though otherwise there would be a fair few craters splattered around our airfields. :)

Have a nice day,
John

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This might not be a genuine photograph but it does show where the joystick is located on an F-16. I will see if I can find a civilian example



CockpitF16M.jpg


Voila
One Airbus illustration

Joystick in left hand!
airbus.jpg

You're right about me not having a good run. Your photos reminded me that I "flew" a Taiwanese Defence Fighter on one of their air forces' official simulators and the joystick was indeed on the right hand side.

Take off was easy, open the throttle and it shot down the runway and started flying. Manoeuvering wasn't that hard. But (and you've probably already guessed it) I piled it up on the runway while trying to land. Now if the joystick had been in the middle of course.... :D
 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Whats the point? Its technology for the sake of it. Why complicate a perfectly good control system which has evolved over the last 100 years of motoring, namely the steering wheel/column/box/rack/pump. Part of the pleasure of driving is the sensory tactile feedback you get from feeling the cars physical interaction with the road. Its a necessary safety feature also in that in the best handling cars the steering mechanism constantly feeds the driver information about whats happening to the car. There is a place for technology be it ABS brakes Stability/Traction Control but sometimes simple is best. Properly designed and maintained mechanical component failure rate is extremely low. This is in contrast to electronic systems and associated sensors which have a much higher incidence of failure in automobiles. I for one dont wish to entrust one of the most fundamental control systems in a car to a set of computers, servos and pumps thank you very much. If you have doubts try convincing the unfortuate pilot of one of the first airbus A320s which decided to fly itself into the ground despite his best efforts. http://www.airdisaster.com/investigations/af296/af296.shtml#ipsc
Maybe in the future when we cede most driver control to car and highway computer control and become involuntary passengers and not drivers in a vast computer controlled network but not just yet.
 
That's the concept for the CL215 isn't it from a few years ago before it was launchd in 2k?
 
My concept cars book has been put into storage before moving but IIRC that is a concept for the W220 and 215 from over 10 years ago!
 
thats cool it meens on long motorway journeys set cruise con and your passenger could take over::))
 

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