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So I've covered 3.000 miles from new and.....

Geordie Amanda

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So, I have had my car for a month or so and have amassed around 3,000 miles. It seems customary to do a mini review at this point :D So in my best Vicky Parrot manner (she writes for Autocar and imho is the best female journo at the mo) and donning my petrol head reading glasses here are a few of my thoughts.

The car now seems to have bedded in nicely, the engine in particular has improved, mostly in fuel consumption, but also it seems to be a shade quieter (this might be my imagination). The motorway economy has now risen to around 42-45 on the motorway at an 80 cruise so I am more than happy and it is interesting to note this is the first car I have ever noticed a distinct improvement in economy after the running-in period. My previous 3.0tdi A4 didn’t really change it’s mpg from new. In fact the engine is silent at cruising speed, the only real noise is the tyres (which can be quite loud),as wind noise is extremely well suppressed.

I really like the Sport button, which unlike Audis’ version of this, really does make a huge difference to the suspension feel and the car feels a lot more lively cross country. The gear change on the flappy paddles also speed up quite a bit and makes using them quite useful. I found the in normal manual mode, the delay on the flappy paddles is too extreme to be useful and the fact it’s harder to tell what gear you are in without keeping looking at the display, makes the feature useless to me. Stick it in Sport and the whole thing comes alive. I had a similar gear change system when I had a car with a DSG gearbox and have the same quibble about the MB one. As the engine is pretty quiet and the gear changes being generally so good, it’s very hard to know what gear you are in. Sometimes the car doesn’t change up when you think it has and it is very easy to lose count of where you are in the gearbox. Also if you are pressing on and have the gearbox in auto, I found the car sometimes changes gear mid corner which is not only annoying, but a little dangerous. Obviously I accept this is normal to Autos, but it is something I have never liked. At least with a manual I have a wand to wave about and the advantage of always knowing what gear you are in because of the positions of the stick when you hand touches it and moves it.

I do have a question about the foot parking brake. It seems to let the car roll a bit, not unlike when you put the transmission brake on in a Land Rover (I love proper old Landies :) ). Is the foot parking brake also a transmission brake? Or am I being a bit mental :D

On the motorway the car is simply astonishing. Easily the best long distance car I have owned and rivalling any car I have driven. I include a friends Bentley Continental Speed in that too! (I have petrol head friends too, and can flirt for Team GB if it means getting a go with them….the cars that is).

The sounds system (HK and DAB) is great. Probably slightly better than the B&O system in my old Audi. I have even managed to play music from my HTC phone via Bluetooth streaming through it. Although you don’t get much more than stop/start/next-track in the way of controls. It’s a shame that I can’t get the MB apps to work with my phone (I have tried using BluDun with it too).

Air Con is powerful and fast to cool the car down, although it doesn’t seem exception in any way. Also the seat materials clean up well after a close friend who half an hour earlier sank in a swamp, sits on them (thanks Lesley).

Oh and the indicators are now on the top position and above the cruise control, which is so much more intuitive.
So to sum up, the engine pulls like a train, the gearbox works pretty well, only the occasional confusion while bimbling around town, the suspension is great in Sport and sometimes a little floaty around town in normal mode (I know many people don’t find this). Economy is pretty good considering the performance and so far there aren’t any rattles-apart from the sun visor squeaks’ a little when it is in the down positions. So would I have a petrol 350 over the diesel? Well I haven’t driven one yet, but the diesel is so quick and the pick up is very good with the Sport button pressed, that the only reason I could see I would have the petrol version would be if it sounded like a NASCAR. Interestingly enough, I just had a chance to compare a 180 petrol with mine. Now if only I hadn’t picked a black car, it is a lovely colour, goes dirty every single day and makes me look like drugs dealer-obviously a very glamorous and attractive drug dealer. I did receive one back handed compliment from a colleague who said “that’s too much car for a woman”. His limp has now healed……

I just picked up my car from the body shop (had a hit and run when the car was only 22 hours old!!!) and was given a C180 Petrol as a loaner. The main differences (mainly around town) between the two seem to be the economy and tyre noise. The run in to MB to pick my repaired car up, yielded 26 mpg in the loaner petrol car and in busy-ish traffic, and the return trip in heavy rush hour traffic yielded 33mpg in my much bigger diesel-so the gap could have been even greater if the traffic had been the same. Both trips started with a cold engined car and were of identical distance and route. The tyre noise on the smaller wheeled loan car was noticeable better as to be expected and to be honest I preferred it’s standard suspension around town. My auto dampers sometimes feel ‘floaty’ to me and they can crash over sleeping policemen, whereas the standard suspension and lighter engined loan car handled these things with aplomb. Another pleasant surprise with the loan car was it seemed to have standard ICE and it sounded pretty good on FM radio, not as good at the HK system in mine, but I could certainly live with it instead of the HK system :) The steering in the petrol car was much firmer and in town was a lot more hard work than my cars’, also the engine in the loaner was slightly quieter during acceleration, but produced more noticeable vibrations than my V6. Finally, the brakes on the standard car where much easier to modulate. The brakes on my car feel much more servoed, if also more powerful, but in traffic it does mean that the final bit of slowing down is a tad more abrupt than in the petrol loan car. The seats on mine are definitely more comfortable I think, the loaner having the standard Elegance seats in leather/artificial leather. Obviously I wouldn’t swap, but it goes to show what a big effect things like very low profile tyres do to ride and noise.

Oh and on a final and warning note. When I picked my car up, the nice people at MB gave me an umbrella, which whilst not smelling as nice as a bunch of flowers, was a lot more practical in Manchester’s usual attempt at drowning me. But can I add a note of caution………..if it is raining outside and you normally open your door, with the intention to put the brolley out of the door, open it and then step out under it's shadow……………………..don’t do what I did. Upon taking the nice MB brolley out of it’s nice MB sleeve, I found I couldn’t see the release catch to open the brolley. So sitting in the car I looked around the recalcitrant ‘protector of my hair’ and saw a small square built into the handle. Do not…..I repeat….DO NOT!!!!! press this button whilst sitting in the car, especially if you are parked just outside the MB reception. It is a hair trigger release for the automatic brolley opening. A light touch, a big whoosh that sounded like a 100kg bat had just landed on my head and Voila! You are pinned into your seat by a fully opened brolley. Not a good look I feel.
 
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excellent write up ..

sounds like you should have gone for 350 CGi :)
 
Great review, thank you. I also find the paddle shift in E mode a bit frustrating - I like to use them to engine brake a bit approaching junctions and save my brake pads, but around town there is usually too much of a lag to allow this.

Also agree the C180CGI is thirsty - I had one as a courtesy car recently for a day, did about 80 miles and put nearly £25 fuel in it! The OBC was reading low 30s for mostly motorway driving.
 
Nice write up and glad to see you're still enjoying it. I don't have so much of an issue using the paddles in E mode its fairly well behaved, my typical driving now I'm used to the car is TC off, S mode and its a lot of fun, just had it lowered and there's no bobbing about under braking so makes it a lot more pleasant to have a spirited drive in :)
 
Nooooooo. I think if I did go for petrol I would go for the new BMW 130/1M and a secondhand SX4/Grand Vitara for the winter :p and some new shoes :D

IM is more of go kart though, and not the cruiser that the C class is. Plus 1M is old generation.
 
Good write up! Agreed on quality of standard stereo - glad I opted for car with pano roof instead of one with HK set up and rev.camera as for me its a much better option. I also agree about the parking brake query!
 
Great review - very much appreciated. I will try and do a comparative (CGI) review when I get mine in October.

I've managed to get my housemates Samsung Galaxy S3 working with BlueDUN so you should be able to resolve your problems.... Shame not to get the full use of it ;)
 
The economy is interesting. It's better than mine.

I'll look forward to reading how you get along with it.
 
The economy is interesting. It's better than mine.

I'll look forward to reading how you get along with it.
I've found that as long as I tread lightly on the accelerator, I can cruise all day at 80 and get decent mpg, but the engine has a huuuuge thirst if you put your foot down, much more so than my previous Audi. I guess all those torqueseses have to paid for somewhere :( :D I also followed the running in period carefully as I feel sure you did too.
 
Great review and interesting wire up on the Dynamic handling option. When I was looking to spec it I found very view reviews.

I find the paddles pretty useless too, but the Dynamic handling optionsclaims to improve manual gear changes when in sport, sounds like it really does!
 
You haven't mentioned what you are reviewing or post any pics. 1/10

Car is in her profile/sig and very useful photos have been posted previously!!
 
Paddles are good on twisty roads, really good mb includes them. Major plus IMHO
 
Having driven many other marques with paddles the MB one's just seem useless in comparison, they have a mind of their own and take ages to shift.
 
Great write up Amanda. Vicky Parrot would be proud of her sister. Now that the tears of laughter have almost cleared from my eyes after reading your MB brolly tale, I can submit my response.

Pretty much everything you wrote also applies to my petrol version (C350 CGI Sport saloon) - except of course I don't quite achieve the same frugal economy. But long runs are still fairly good; 38mpg on mixed roads but mainly motorway. However, press the right pedal down to use the power available and the sucking noise from the petrol tank could almost drown out the 18" low profile tyre noise. But fortunately the throaty roar from the twin exhausts supersedes everything else so an emptying wallet is, for a change, accompanied by a big smile.


Dynamic handling certainly does make a difference in all respects: tightening the suspension and sharpening gearchanges and throttle response. I agree that the flappy paddles are of little use without first pressing the Sport button – a button that I wish was placed next to the gear lever instead of way over on the dash almost in front of the passenger seat! But even in Sport mode it’s not easy to know which gear you’re in when you use the paddles. Not a problem exclusive to MB though; I had the same trouble in a Ferrari 360 whilst tearing around Silverstone recently, and getting it wrong there made a big difference! The stiffer suspension with Dynamic Handling on in the C-Class whilst mighty effective is still perfectly comfortable in my opinion, so well worth the extra cost. I don’t know how this compares to the AMG Handling pack now available on the very latest versions.

I wasn’t aware of your slight issue with the foot operated parking brake until you pointed it out. But yes, there is a slight movement after applying it and releasing the footbrake. Not as serious a problem though as a friend of mine who took delivery of his new manual C180 a few weeks before me. He’d had the demonstration many months before and was in a hurry when he collected it from the dealer so shot off without any further instruction. When he arrived at work he couldn’t find the handbrake but saw the “P” on the instrument display along with “HOLD” so assumed it was a fully electronic system and the parking brake had been applied. It was only a little later when a colleague laughingly told him that his car had driven itself out of his parking space and into a hedge that he discovered the truth. Fortunately no harm done, but he did then take the time to read some of the manual. On the subject of the HOLD feature, I do like it when stopped at lights and similar places, and I’m sure the people behind like it even more not having brake lights glaring at them all the time.

The panoramic roof was an expensive option but a good choice. It’s not so much the ability to enjoy the occasional bit of nearly open-top motoring (it’s too noisy at speed in such an otherwise quiet car) but the way that all that glass brings so much light into the car. But I do get the feeling that the HK sound system is more about the labels on the speakers than it is about vastly superior performance. Nice but not so sure it’s necessary. And I could say the same thing about the Luxury Climate Control; nice for the rare times we have passengers in the back who are able to control there own zone, but the “diffused”, “medium” and “focused” air-flow styles are barely discernable. I first thought the same about the ventilated seats, but on the rare occasions that it’s been hot outside this “summer” they have been marvellous, particularly after the car has been sat in the sun for a while. An option that I didn’t go for was Blind Spot Assist, thinking that I don’t need to be told someone’s next to me when at my very advanced years I’m still capable of turning my head to look. But the B pillars on the saloon are quite wide and for this 6 footer restrict a worrying amount of view. I’m still getting used to taking even more care now, so far having only done a couple of “Oops, sorry”s when entering roads from slipways!

Amanda repeated the downside to having a black car of keeping it looking clean, but I’m sure I spend longer cleaning my wheels than the rest of it. Admittedly I’m a bit A nul in that if I can see it then I have to clean it, but those AMG 5-twin-spoke alloys still gather brake dust even quicker than the front grill gather flies (just!).

Whilst on the subject of black cars and options, I hope it’s not too long before MB introduce an even bigger hair-trigger umbrella than Amanda’s that pops up through the roof to keep the whole car clean. Or better still, air vents on all the panels to blow air out and around the whole car to keep rain and dirt away. Perhaps I should send this suggestion to Stuttgart as a way of making a great car even better.

 
I agree that the flappy paddles are of little use without first pressing the Sport button – a button that I wish was placed next to the gear lever instead of way over on the dash almost in front of the passenger seat!

perfect for LHD :D
 
How is anyone meant to know that though?? You have to read a full review ad then at the end guess of its the car in the sig??
It's also in my profile :)
 

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