Such sympathy...

[meeeb]

Probably. But, in defence of the driver, before the last brake check the biker had accelerated away hard...if I'd been the car driver I'd have thought he was on his way...and would not have expected the violent braking.

That's a very (the) significant point so far as the collision is concerned and one which would, in my view, have found much sympathy in court.

Although there are very few accidents in which 100% blame can be laid at the door of one or the other driver, a split liability decision by a civil court may well have decided that the biker was largely to blame for the collision and would therefore have awarded the far greater percentage of blame to him - in my opinion.

 

[Jovie]

I ride a bike too and that was unbelievably stupid!! some bikers tend to forget how vulnerable they are.
Overtake/undertake, whatever, just be on your way.
Couldn't help laughing at the car drivers reaction when he got out though.

 

[Dieselman]

Legally, perhaps so.

But you will agree that a reasonable driver in these circumstances would have slowed down asap and backed off, keeping his distance from the lunatic biker as far as possible?

Both behaved badly, to my mind anyway.

You're right.

The car driver should have done an Alexian Lien.

 

[renault12ts]

Alexian Lien beating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[cinek]

Hehe, lets hope this doesnt turn into another 50 page saga

Btw, 'gentleman' with the rice rocket got what he deserved.

 

[Dieselman]

Btw, 'gentleman' with the rice rocket got what he deserved.

I particularly like the way he gets swung round both directions as his foot is still attached to the bike.

 

[cinek]

I particularly like the way he gets swung round both directions as his foot is still attached to the bike.

Well, taking on the car whilst riding a bike can only result in one outcome.

For me riding is about making a progress, getting quicker from A to B.
I would never contemplate getting involved in some petty argument, simply because I would not have the time for it.

 

[Piff]

That does not apply in a case such as this where the vehicle in front has pulled in front of the other vehicle and then proceeded to brake test the car. It would not be described as reasonable, and in the event the case went to court it would surely be thrown out.

I believe you should always be able to stop to avoid hitting the vehicle ahead - no matter how unreasonable that vehicle (it's operators) behaviour.
In my book (and I believe most insurance companies) if you hit a vehicle from behind you are to blame

 

[RWDpetrol]

This is Russia, I wouldn't have bothered with a stoppie, would have shot the car tyres with a gun. Teach the lane hogger a lesson.

 

[renault12ts]

I believe you should always be able to stop to avoid hitting the vehicle ahead - no matter how unreasonable that vehicle (it's operators) behaviour.
In my book (and I believe most insurance companies) if you hit a vehicle from behind you are to blame

So, you're travelling on the inside lane of a motorway when a car in the lane to your right pulls in front of you and brakes hard giving you no chance...who's in the wrong?

Life and motoring is not so black and white as you would like.

 

[markjay]

I believe you should always be able to stop to avoid hitting the vehicle ahead - no matter how unreasonable that vehicle (it's operators) behaviour.
In my book (and I believe most insurance companies) if you hit a vehicle from behind you are to blame

In the UK, when fraudsters purposely break hard in front of other cars in order to collect personal injury payments, the driver at the rear is not held at fault (to the extent that it can be demostrated that it was intentional fraud).

 

[Dryce]

I believe you should always be able to stop to avoid hitting the vehicle ahead - no matter how unreasonable that vehicle (it's operators) behaviour.
In my book (and I believe most insurance companies) if you hit a vehicle from behind you are to blame

That's a simplistic view that is correct in most circumstances but goes out the window when somebody cuts in and starts acting like an idiot on a fast multi-lane highway.

Could the car driver have handled it better - possibly - by slowing right down which may introduce other dangers. Would you want to be forced to a halt on a fast multilane highway. Once you're dealing with the idiot in front that's sapping your situation awareness as regards the other lanes.

Biker at fault because of deliberate intent IMO. Car driver might have handled it better - but is off the hook (ahain IMO) as long as he didn't do anything deliberate.

 

[Dieselman]

This is Russia, I wouldn't have bothered with a stoppie, would have shot the car tyres with a gun. Teach the lane hogger a lesson.

When my Cousin was first working in Russia, He was advised that if anyone stepped out in front of him and tried to stop him, to put them over the roof of the car.
Just for clarity, He's not a thug and was being advised regarding his safety as a high level corporate Executive.