Thoughts - best investment Merc or AMG?

[Tian]

In my mind a good investment car must have a few key things:
Looks, rarity, and an interesting engine

Anyone got ideas?

 

[Darrell]

In my mind a good investment car must have a few key things:
Looks, rarity, and an interesting engine

Anyone got ideas?

Originality?

 

[Tian]

Originality?

Yeah, that too!

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

I’d say that the 190-SL, SLS AMG Roadster Smart Brabus Roadster, W140 Mercedes S 500 / CL 500 and and CLS 55 AMG are examples of models which currently under valued.

At the right price a C 63 Black Series and CLK 63 Black Series would also be a safe place to put your money. I say at the right price because most are overpriced and hang around.

 

[kam09]

Some Audi RS models are good at holding value but depends on age,mileage and condition.. also, if it is a rare colour that will help..

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Ultimately I wouldn’t recommend actually investing in cars. They cost money to insure and maintain properly and I believe it’s tragic for cars not to be used as they were originally intended.

Instead, I view appreciation as softening the cost of buying and owning them. That way I don’t get too precious about them, and I won’t be disappointed if they don’t appreciate as much as I might have hoped.

 

[Tian]

I’d say that the 190-SL, SLS AMG Roadster Smart Brabus Roadster, W140 Mercedes S 500 / CL 500 and and CLS 55 AMG are examples of models which currently under valued.

At the right price a C 63 Black Series and CLK 63 Black Series would also be a safe place to put your money. I say at the right price because most are overpriced and hang around.

The c63 blacks are asking too much 150k for a C class when you could get a mint 63 for 1/3 of the price!!! The SLS roadsters are also much lower than the coupes and really only for the doors. Although I would add the Cls 63S AMG and the S/Sl 73 AMG only because they are very rare and for the Cls not unaffordable. I saw an S73 go for 200k so I guess they've already become a great investment

 

[Tian]

Ultimately I wouldn’t recommend actually investing in cars. They cost money to insure and maintain properly and I believe it’s tragic for cars not to be used as they were originally intended.

Instead, I view appreciation as softening the cost of buying and owning them. That way I don’t get too precious about them, and I won’t be disappointed if they don’t appreciate as much as I might have hoped.

Explains why I haven't done it

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

The c63 blacks are asking too much 150k for a C class when you could get a mint 63 for 1/3 of the price!!! The SLS roadsters are also much lower than the coupes and really only for the doors. Although I would add the Cls 63S AMG and the S/Sl 73 AMG only because they are very rare and for the Cls not unaffordable. I saw an S73 go for 200k so I guess they've already become a great investment

Yes the very very limited large capacity pre-merger AMG models are name-your-price money now.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

The c63 blacks are asking too much 150k for a C class when you could get a mint 63 for 1/3 of the price!!! The SLS roadsters are also much lower than the coupes and really only for the doors. Although I would add the Cls 63S AMG and the S/Sl 73 AMG only because they are very rare and for the Cls not unaffordable. I saw an S73 go for 200k so I guess they've already become a great investment

They do change hands for much less, but most cars are doggedly trying to get £150k but they move slowly (if sold at all).

 

[Stevo5]

Essentially it depends on trying to find that sweet spot-I would say models such as Gullwing SEL are always going to hold their value but more modern ones? Black Series would be a good place to start.
BUT.
whatever you choose will have to be- and stay low low mileage. As others say you also have to protect it from the elements (so thats a climate controlled garage or a ‘bubble’ or you pay a firm to keep said car in their controlled environments). Plus security plus insurance +++. And for a car that you get to drive very very rarely. Put miles on the car? You start to devalue it. For example a couple of years ago I bought the lowest mileage Audi C7 RS6 in the UK. It was a 2015 65 Plate and when I bought it it had 3200 miles on the clock. It was a ‘Static Demonstrator’ for Audi Heritage and they released it with 2500 miles on the clock. It was effectively a 6 year old nearly new car. Even had original stickers on the underside and came loaded with ceramics, HUD +++. Even smelt new. Then came the realisation that if I put miles on it the value would come down. In 6 months I did 500 miles and it just sat there as a driveway queen under a cover. Pointless. I sold it and got my money back pretty much but thats the conundrum-using your ‘investment piece’ devalues it so either you have to be super disciplined and not drive it or be lucky enough to have multiple cars. Plus its a gamble-how m,any people bet on the M3/4 CS’ being a super investment? Prices tumbled and they are still way under what they could be. Then again if you were lucky enough to buy a Z8 (1999 prices - £80k. 2020’s? £180K) or an M1 then you’re quids in but again-have to be low miles.

 

[noogieman]

Don't want to be a dud, I would suggest you save your money.
Nowadays I wouldn't bother buying an expensive car.

Best and cheapest economical car would probably be a new Dacia Duster or an old Trabbi from former DDR??

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

In my mind a good investment car must have a few key things:
Looks, rarity, and an interesting engine

Methinks you left out low mileage and condition.

I'm regularly being told that a car like one of my old motors is being advertised, or even sold, for a high price.

In truth it's not. The ones sold now are on the same mileage that mine were a couple of decades ago, and in better condition.

Buy equities or bonds for an investment. (Jesus saves but Moses invests)

Buy an older, interesting car for the pleasure of a newer one but with much lower depreciation and financing opportunity cost. Even if it doesn't have WAZE, or "lane assist" built in.

 

[Tian]

Methinks you left out low mileage and condition.

I'm regularly being told that a car like one of my old motors is being advertised, or even sold, for a high price.

In truth it's not. The ones sold now are on the same mileage that mine were a couple of decades ago, and in better condition.

Buy equities or bonds for an investment. (Jesus saves but Moses invests)

Buy an older, interesting car for the pleasure of a newer one but with much lower depreciation and financing opportunity cost. Even if it doesn't have WAZE, or "lane assist" built in.

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[Darrell]

Get yourself a couple of these.

 

[Stevo5]

Get yourself a couple of these.

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B7 RS4 all day long-S3….really?

 

[Darrell]

B7 RS4 all day long-S3….really?

 

[Skd884]

Love a B7, bin the s3 slim.

 

[ALFAitalia]

I think any cars (or shall I most) that are not exotica are not a wise investment at the moment. Like buying shares when they are at top price and thinking that, given time, they go up further....it might happen.....or their values might fall through the floor and take a lifetime to recover. Cars are still artificially highly priced at the moment....many sellers, especially private ones are hoping for the best (maybe a miracle looking at some prices!) and ignoring the fact that new cars supplies are close to pre covid and that the Guide prices have started to fall and are likely to fall quite fast for quite a while now (from Glasses editorial). So leaving the purchase of any used car bought for investment for a few months or perhaps a year seems wise to me....you wont lose out as even if they have it wrong and prices don't tumble, they certainly won't be getting any higher in the foreseeable.
As said you have to be lucky to be hoping for a real, substantial profit on anything mainstream....AMG or not (exceptions like BS stuff aside).....you might show a profit when you sell.....but how much did you really make when you take , insurance, servicing/maintenance/repairs, storage and any interest your might have made on your money in high interest account off that bottom figure.
Nothing sadder than a car that was meant to be driven hiding under a cover in a garage or being trailer to the odd show.....IMO.

 

[JHS]

Love a B7, bin the s3 slim.

What is an S3 slim?