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My 2010 also appears to have the original non AGM battery....I'll just replace it with like for like but the biggest that will fit in the tray and is the correct hight. I've found that fitting AGM on cars that did not have them as syd leads to problems...probably because they should be charged at a higher voltage than a normal lead acid battery..... the AGM one I fitted to my 159 only ever seemed to be fully charged after a go on the Ctek.....but was fine with a normal one.
 
My 2010 also appears to have the original non AGM battery....I'll just replace it with like for like but the biggest that will fit in the tray and is the correct hight. I've found that fitting AGM on cars that did not have them as syd leads to problems...probably because they should be charged at a higher voltage than a normal lead acid battery..... the AGM one I fitted to my 159 only ever seemed to be fully charged after a go on the Ctek.....but was fine with a normal one.
You make an interesting point about the charging system of the car and compatability with an AGM battery if the original was VRLA 'wet'.

I also note that the CTEK has a different charging setting for AGM and the standard one never achieves that top green light!

And there was I also having second thoughts about the wisdom of going for a 'wet' battery, despite the fact my car is pre-Stop-Start, on the basis of markjay's 19 Sep 2020 post.

He points out that the Varta OEM battery may have been made by Varta but it was to a Mercedes spec and that same battery is unavailable from anyone in the aftermarket other than Mercedes (including Varta Bosch), and will last 15 years.

So, his advice, to paraphrase, if not paying up for an actual Mercedes battery, was to get one from a trusted source certified to fit the car from another leading brand, i.e. as opposed to one nominally the same technology as the original but maybe not quite up to par with the original spec.

This would open up the possibility that, apart from lazy upselling, possibly on the assumption that all cars are now Stop-Start and need deep cyclic recharging capacity, the recommended batteries may just somehow be a 'better' spec, more comparable with the original, which AGMs certainly are - and of course we pay 60+% more for that!

Your point, however, is that not only might this upscaling be redundant for anyone not driving like a postman in a wet battery OEM non-Stop-Start vehicle, but it might not get on with existing electrics not designed for higher AGM recharging voltages either.

Naturally, if one is routinely using a CTEK trickle charger anyway this may not matter so much, but may explain the need.

However, it would be interesting to get more input on that point before anyone with an older non-Stop-Starter makes a move to either a Varta F19 'wet' or F21 AGM.

I had much the same dilemma replacing a headlamp bulb last year, in that at least two generations of bulb tech had arisen since.

And, given that the native electrics would have to be fooled with a resistor to accept the latest low energy option, I just went with a like-for-like old tech pair of 'hot' bulbs.
 
In the end, after more research, I was persuaded to pay up for the Varta A6 (which succeds the F21) AGM battery after all.

Although my E-Class 350CDI estate car is not Stop-Start, the 15 year-old battery I am replacing is clearly marked as a VRLA battery (valve regulated lead acid battery).

Contrary to my earlier impression, this is a sealed AGM (absorbant glass mat) battery, which, together with gel batteries, is distinct from (and a marked advance over) the old school 'wet' battery.

So, it would be a backstep to go for a cheaper 'wet' battery when the car has plainly functioned well and was designed with the current AGM type in mind. No doubt the OEM battery spec and AGM 'overkill' for at non Stop-Start role helped it last nearly 15 years.

The A6 spec is the same 80Ah and 800A as my original A 000 982 21 08 and measures 315L x 175W x 190H with a B13 hold down.
 
Interesting thread , what battery do I have ?

Battery's 14th Birthday next week and definitely in the twilight period .
I must get up to speed with considering it's replacement.


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Contrary to my earlier impression, this is a sealed AGM (absorbant glass mat) battery, which, together with gel batteries, is distinct from (and a marked advance over) the old school 'wet' battery.
They CAN be...most are not. From Yuasa...

VRLA stands for Valve Regulated Lead-Acid. VRLA batteries are rechargeable, low-maintenance batteries that are often used in electronics and industrial applications. They are also known as sealed lead-acid (SLA) batteries or maintenance-free batteries.
 
That's the same as I had. 110 AGM. Yours has lasted 14 years .

Cool thanks , for sure it's in a S204 C Class facelift the very ones that first got Stop Strain BlueEfficiency boolocks which I've permanently disabled .

It's not got AGM on it but lable as VRLA !

Putting reginald into Tayna the offerings are both 110 AGM and 115 AGM .

But is my 14 year old original an AGM at all ?


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Cool thanks , for sure it's in a S204 C Class facelift the very ones that first got Stop Strain BlueEfficiency boolocks which I've permanently disabled .

It's not got AGM on it but lable as VRLA !

Putting reginald into Tayna the offerings are both 110 AGM and 115 AGM .

But is my 14 year old original an AGM at all ?


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Most likely a gel battery . Just not quite AGM.
 
Yeah Halfords many moons ago and probably still now had dimensions and posts all messed up .

A defining measurement will be the height , 175mm or 190mm .
 
Yeah Halfords many moons ago and probably still now had dimensions and posts all messed up .

A defining measurement will be the height , 175mm or 190mm .
315 mm or 353 mm on the length too. The 353 mm is the boot battery . 🫣
 

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