wallingd
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What's that in Zimbabwe, Z$4,442,592,000,000,000,000,000,000.00? 
glojo
Hardcore MB Enthusiast
I bow to our Indian members but I think a very rough costing for a basic E280CDI Elegance is approximately £52480What's that in Zimbabwe, Z$4,442,592,000,000,000,000,000,000.00?
Regards
John
I think the E280 is still only 2.8 litres. At least that's what my car has.
glojo
Hardcore MB Enthusiast
Read from approximately post # 50 onwardThey are the same engine on the latest facelift model E-class
John
ABC of MB terminology
This thread and replies seems to be a lot about engine sizes and the like. In general I find that the number ex E280 refers fairly closely or somewhat near the engine capacity. Of course this number may be off a couple of hundred cc or so.
What I find interesting are the letters.
When the E class was first launched several decades ago, it was the only class of MB to have fuel injection and therefore the letter E for Einspritzung or injection.
Of course later, all petrol engines became fuel injected and E came to stand for something else as follows:
I've read this on other website(s) so I can't personally verify all the data, but most of it is very credible.
C class - C = compact
E class - E = executive
S class - S = super
However,
SL = Sports luxury
SLK = Sports luxury kurz (kurz is german for short; i.e. short wheelbase).
Just to confuse things further,
C in CLS is not compact.
CLS = Coupe luxury sport
CL = Coupe luxury
CLK = Coupe luxury kurz (short wheelbase)
L used to stand for 'lang', German for long (wheelbase). I don't think it's used in this sense anymore.
Which brings us to the new CLC class.
My deduction tells me that as this is derived from the C (compact) class, CLC stands for Compact luxury coupe.
T stands for tourist. Also for transport if a bus.
SLR by my guess should be Sports luxury racing/racer
I don't know what A or B class stands for and I've forgotten now what GL and M classes stand for.
I hope this clears up as many points as the new number of doubts it has created.
This thread and replies seems to be a lot about engine sizes and the like. In general I find that the number ex E280 refers fairly closely or somewhat near the engine capacity. Of course this number may be off a couple of hundred cc or so.
What I find interesting are the letters.
When the E class was first launched several decades ago, it was the only class of MB to have fuel injection and therefore the letter E for Einspritzung or injection.
Of course later, all petrol engines became fuel injected and E came to stand for something else as follows:
I've read this on other website(s) so I can't personally verify all the data, but most of it is very credible.
C class - C = compact
E class - E = executive
S class - S = super
However,
SL = Sports luxury
SLK = Sports luxury kurz (kurz is german for short; i.e. short wheelbase).
Just to confuse things further,
C in CLS is not compact.
CLS = Coupe luxury sport
CL = Coupe luxury
CLK = Coupe luxury kurz (short wheelbase)
L used to stand for 'lang', German for long (wheelbase). I don't think it's used in this sense anymore.
Which brings us to the new CLC class.
My deduction tells me that as this is derived from the C (compact) class, CLC stands for Compact luxury coupe.
T stands for tourist. Also for transport if a bus.
SLR by my guess should be Sports luxury racing/racer
I don't know what A or B class stands for and I've forgotten now what GL and M classes stand for.
I hope this clears up as many points as the new number of doubts it has created.
It's down to market position.
Sometimes the numbers are out by more than a couple of hundred cc - which is in part down to the use of superchargers.
And as has already been pointed out numbers such as 280 and 320 may be used for models which share variations of the same 3 litre engine.
There are various explanations for the letters. Eg. 'C' and 'L' may be for Comfort and Leicht/Light as opposed to Coupe and Luxury.
My recollection is that there have been various theories as to what various manufacturers' letters stand for going right back to the 70s and 80s. So MB are not the only culprit.
Diesel Benz
MB Enthusiast
Not sure where the statement came from, it was not Geoff2 but I believe the 280 and 320 in this case referred to the CDI models where they are the same 3.0 litre engine (211.022 is using 642.920 and the same for 211.020). It was the same engine for the I6 E320 CDI and E280 CDI too.
Roger Jones
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"However,
SL = Sports luxury
SLK = Sports luxury kurz (kurz is german for short; i.e. short wheelbase).
Just to confuse things further,
C in CLS is not compact.
CLS = Coupe luxury sport
CL = Coupe luxury
CLK = Coupe luxury kurz (short wheelbase)
L used to stand for 'lang', German for long (wheelbase). I don't think it's used in this sense anymore."
I think the L is for leicht -- light -- not luxury. It was a misnomer on the R129, for sure. It was used for lang in the old SEL days and earlier.
SL = Sports luxury
SLK = Sports luxury kurz (kurz is german for short; i.e. short wheelbase).
Just to confuse things further,
C in CLS is not compact.
CLS = Coupe luxury sport
CL = Coupe luxury
CLK = Coupe luxury kurz (short wheelbase)
L used to stand for 'lang', German for long (wheelbase). I don't think it's used in this sense anymore."
I think the L is for leicht -- light -- not luxury. It was a misnomer on the R129, for sure. It was used for lang in the old SEL days and earlier.
In the US of A they badge it as S550 just to mix things up a bit more.
Diesel Benz
MB Enthusiast
But they seem to be consistent when creating confusion, the W204 C280 is called C300 as another example.
Paul S320CDi
Active Member
All this talk of Sprinters is bringing a tear to my eye. I used to drive one(well several) for about 4 years averaging about 800 miles a day. I was amazed at the the amount of abuse they could take. Flat out all the time and never had any problems apart from a new engine in one when I put half a tank of petrol in by mistake. It still drove alright for a few weeks.
